I do really like the 870, have owned several and one still in the house. Several folks I know have the newer ones, not the same as the older ones. Express models I know of are trouble and rough as a cob. I also have Ithaca model 37's in 20 gauge, a featherlite and an English Ultra. They would be the last ones to leave. Have two Browning BPS in 12 gauge, needed ones for steel shot with removeable chokes. No issues with these and seem very well made, kind of like the old Wingmaster used to be.
