The 870 is one of my four "Guns everyone should own." I still believe that, but Remington has damn sure tested my resolve! It is not so much with the 870 in particular, but the crap they pulled when they acquired Marlin, Bushmaster, and maybe some others. I don't know if Marlin is straightened out yet. As for Bushmaster, the owner got back at the Remington "bespoke suits" when he opened Wyndham Weaponry!