Originally Posted by rainshot
No states don't have the right to just leave the union and start their own nation any time they don't agree with the status quo. That notion is just silly[]. The Civil War never should have happened but since it did we might as well quit trying to fight it. Speculating on what might have happened if the South had won makes as much sense as speculating what would have happened if Germany had won.


No states have the right to leave the Union? Lets analyze that real quick...

The is the United States Of America....United for a common good...

When that common good no longer fits a states "common good", the original framers figured that was that particular States Tough Luck? The STATE joins, its obligation to all the other states is perpetual?

Southern States felt the Union was no longer meeting or even recognizing their needs.. so they decided to end their contract with the "UNION" and form their own separate Nation.. for their "common good"....

Northern States didn't like that very much.. so they asserted Northern States 'rights' over Southern States "rights' by force..
essentially Invading " the South".. by massing and invading the state of Virginia from out of Washington DC....

they crossed Arlington County and Fairfax County.. but by the time they had invaded 30 miles into Prince William County VA, they got this rude awakening, because they were met at a creek called Bull Run, by armed forces of the State of Virginia...

and the invading troops, found themselves retreating back across the Potomac to DC having got their asses kicked....

that is kind of why at the time, in the south it was not referred to as the Civil War.. it was referred to as the War of Northern Aggression.....or lesser known in History, as being Called the Second War of Independence in the south and especially in the State of Virginia....

don't be another democRAT busy rewritting American History.. instead of looking at what REALLY happened...

The Real VERSION, not the CNN version...


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