I am not in any way defending folks as a whole from CA. LOL I know better. Not all of the folks are the same. I wound up in CA when I retired from the Navy, got a very good job that It made no sense to leave. About to retire, and I am going to get the hell out of CA. Property taxes are $650 a month.. 3/4 ton truck plates (a 2014) were $675. I grew up in the Midwest and have those values. Have 3 1/2 acres in MN as well. Going back to where I grew up. hoping it will be something like what I remember, folks helping each other when needed or asked.