Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by xxclaro
Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by xxclaro
[According to God's Word Jesus was crucified from the foundation of the world. So yes God knew it. After all, God knows what we think and do before we think and do it.


So then God must have intended it that way.


Of course! Do you think anything else is consistent with the Bible?


Well only if you read it literally, when God is constantly surprised and disappointed by what he finds humans doing.


Show me chapter and verse where God is surprised, please.
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As early as Genesis 6. Instances all throughout the Old Testament of God becoming angry with something the people do and seeking to destroy them. You don't become angry and destroy something if you made it to perform in the manner that it does, and know full well that it's going to do it. Jeremiah 3 has a couple more instances where God thought the people would do one thing and did another. I recall one instance in the Old Testament where God once again set out to destroy the Israelites for some reason, but Moses and I believe Aaron burnt incense, and I guess that soothed him....that doesn't seem like the actions of an omnipotent and omniscient God.