I have bought them off the rack during the Quigley shoot and driven from my house to Big Timber to pick them up on two occasions. Once for a Roughrider 40-70 SS, and once for a 45-110 Business Rifle. It is 1503 miles from my driveway to Shiloh, but I considered the 3000 mile round trips well worth it. No way I was going to put those rifles in the mail or UPS or Fed Ex. It IS a hoot to go to the range at Shiloh and hit everything you shoot at with your unfired Business Rifle and first time loaded cases. That is one hell of a rifle and has been to Africa with me twice.