Just an aside concerning the issue of separation of church and state issue I see alluded to here and there. Most have no idea what the Founding Fathers’ wanted to prevent with that concept. It was what Constantine formed in the 4th century when as emperor he joined the Roman church with the empire, making them co-extensive, and linked irrevocably by infant baptism. He wanted a universal (small “c” catholic) church so the Roman Church became the Roman Catholic Church.

You were born into the empire and Christianity simultaneously by the sacrament of infant baptism. Of course this greatly diluted true Christianity by immediately including what was mostly a pagan Roman Empire. But to the point of the Founders, from that point through the Reformation and at many points in between, the church used the state as a tool to suppress and kill “heretics” and dissenters. The church ruled through and via the state.

We’ve been hoodwinked by the humanist culture for sixty years that separation means taking prayer and scripture out of public education, the Ten Commandments off of court house walls, and crosses that are landmarks down; no praying in the public square, or at sporting events, and so forth.

Instead of the church being strong and informing the culture, the culture has informed and cowed the church which for the most part during our lives, has been week. And if it had been strong, the subject of this thread wouldn’t be that much of an issue.

The founders didn’t want Christianity out of the state; in fact, they almost all shared the sentiment that a republic couldn’t stand without a moral (emanating from religion) publi. They just didn’t want Christianity or any religion to control the state and use it to their own end.

Last edited by George_De_Vries_3rd; 10/23/20.