Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by lvmiker
As has been pointed out hundreds of films involving gunplay have been produced w/ out anyone being shot. That this incident occurred is proof that established safety norms were not in place or were not enforced. If best practices are not enforced or are over ruled by management it is willful negligence. Big egos often dominate workplaces and undercut those tasked w/ safety.

Force on force training takes place regularly using real guns and simunitions type of projectiles w/ out injury because of rigorous protocols and enforcement. Once clear precedents are established incidents like this are the result of negligence and the liabilities start at the upper management/principles level. An actor is hired to act, not because he has the skills of the character he is portraying. Baldwin's failure and liability lie in his failure to run a safe set as the producer not in lack of gun knowledge. When you think you are the smartest guy in the room you discard the guidance of lesser beings. Behavior common to narcissists.


mike r


Or the armorer was snorting coke in trailer still, because she was definitely unqualified for the job.



Even if that were the case the person in charge should not have proceeded and all weapons should have been secured until safety protocols could be enforced. If the armorer was unqualified the organization that hired her is responsible for harm resulting from that decision. The death and injury were a result of negligent management.


mike r


Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better

Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
Craig Douglas ECQC