Originally Posted by Fotis
Or you can down load the 44 mag with 44 mag cases, cast bullets, and a few grains of bullseye or traiboss. Same difference.

Yep.
I use 6gr of Clays, (cause I have a lot of it), behind a .430" Brazos 240gr hitek-coated lswc (cheapest), in Starline 44mag brass, WLP, for 860fps from my 4" 329pd. 800'ish fps seems to be where the grandkids don't complain about recoil. I used to run them at 930fps but it was a touch too much for noobs.