i got a TC Contender with a 10" barrel in 30 Herrett. i will use a 130gr Speer HP with Reloder 7 and it will be 1900+/-fps. talk about light recoiling. it will be my deer gun this year. my dad (RIP) had a 14" muzzle brake barrel in 7-30 Waters with a 115gr Speer HP and IMR4895 that goes 2200+/-fps and it just smoked deer.