OK , but----(chuckle) , the problem I see with the hyper speed loads , and using a point blank method , is your mid range trajectory height begins to get out of hand , BECAUSE of the high speed . Over the thirty years or so , I have found a mid range height of 4 inches or so to be perfectly acceptable . I know I'm splittin hairs here , but I think 5 inches or more would start to be a bit much .........
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<br>I DO buy the concept of a fast hard bullet for shootin deer , and pronghorn too . That is exactly what the ol Speer and the big seven has been givin me . No deer has stopped one yet , and I get clean Elmer Keith silver dollar sized exit holes with little meat destruction , even under 100 yards . Knock on wood , so far all any critter has done is a back flip and the dog paddle . For deer size stuff , I can say that speed DOES kill , with or without fast bullet expansion ..............
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