That was pure ballistics,Jeff..Doesn't mean it won't kill 'em at 301 yards either. grin

The fact is the vast majority of hunters don't shoot elk at over 3-400 yards, if even that.I have a picture of a great bull shot by Tony Makris at 275 yards with a 45-70 Double and a muzzle velocity of 1650 fps and a 420 grain bullet.He knows his rifle and is able to shoot it at pistol velocities out to dang near 300 yards deadly.

Sure the big 7 is faster than Superman and hits harder than a freight train but it is and always will be .284 in diameter as the 338 is just that.338..

.054 diameter difference is larger than the difference in the 375 H&H and the 416 Remington Mag...How many African hunters are going to tell either of us the 375 is as deadly as the 416 for dangerous game?

Awe..They all work but some just go crazy thinking the big 7 is the first and last word as an Elk killing machine..It isn't...And lighter and faster isn't always the best combo...

Jayco grin