I got it and the pneumonia that goes with it. Never in my life did something like this kick my a$$.

I hope you feel better quickly.

I got pneumonia out of it as well. I had 10 days of feeling like schit. Wife and I called it the 10 day flu.

Hang tough. Hope you beat it.

I guess the wife and I had the 'alpha' strain two years back, yes It kicked both of our azz's for 2-3 weeks!

We got it for Christmas...At the first sign we dosed up with Medrol, Ivermectin V C, V D3. Zinc... Kept it out of our lungs and was just a real bad cold. Teri lost taste... Neither of us were vaccinated but we were prepared with all the drugs on hand ...

I never lost my taste or smell.

I had it really bad...almost a month!! Keep moving around...don't lay around and let the pneumonia build up in your lungs.

Why be just reactive ?

Why do folks not just stay on C, D and Zinc and a multi?

In the hospital for bout number number two of this!

I got it before thanksgiving and now I've got bronchial problems. Started antibiotics yesterday. Guess I'm gunna have to take this more serious.

Antibiotics for a virus?

How do you catch it twice?

I thought natural immunity was “all that and a bag o’ chips” ?

Where’s our resident Infowars virologists on this?

I would take a antibiotics for bronchial pneumonia, but only after I had gotten a throat swab to confirmation species of the offending bacteria.

No doubt, that's what it is.

Hope you kick it fireball.

Smartest Man on the Campfire and he asks "How do you catch it twice?"

Sheesh,




(I'm guessing there's still a need for a sarcasm font?)

Ya know it’s really people like me on immunosuppressants with 6 fuggin boosters on board. I’m a super breeder of a new strains.

Woooooooo...fear me🤨

My Covid started out with a dry cough right after thanksgiving. Tested negative for Covid.

Cough got worse, went to Dr. and was diagnosed with pneumonia and tested negative for Covid again. He gave me antibiotics. Felt better after a week.

A week later developed congestion, stuffy nose, coughing and a fever of 101° that lasted a day then started feeling better. Went to the Dr. a couple days later and tested positive for Covid. She said I was past the quarantine stage and was not contagious.
I was vaxed twice but no booster. Not sure if I'm going to get the booster now.

That was last week and I still can't taste or smell. The cough kind of comes and goes. One day I feel like normal then the next day with a cough and sneezing.

I never was bed ridden and still continue with my daily routine at the farm. I just want my taste and smell back.

Whether you agree with the Covid jabs or not, it might be a good idea to look into the two available pneumonia vaccines if you are eligible. I got the Pneumovax 23 last year as a precaution.

It wasn’t omicron so you have that to look foward too also

I came down with a fever December 28th. Didn't lose my sense of taste or smell so I figured it was the Flu. After three days I started taking Ivermectin then took a Covid test after 5 and it was positive. Called doctor and he ordered the antibody treatment but UPMC Pittsburgh never got hold of me to get them. Called my doctor again next day, said stay home and wait to die.

Ended up with double pnemonia after 10 or so days of fever. Spent one night in the hospital where they finally gave me some things to start healing. I'm much better now but still feeling it.

Shiet sux.

Only caught it once, my oxygen levels were good and took all the treatments so it was looking like I was on the mend. It turned on a dime on me.

Do you think actively acquired immunity from Covid infection…especially for those who did get symptomatically sick from it…decreases the severity of the disease when and if one does become infected with it again…?

I do exactly that, now. Plus a lil’ horse paste every other week.

You can have a bacterial infection at the same time you have a viral infection.

I’m not sure what to think

I’ve heard people saying “i cot dat durn sheeit 3 timezes an now im sick again”

Some on here catching it multiple times.

One dude hospitalized twice, giving his report from a hospital bed.

Because D is a deadly poison.

Wife got it the day after Christmas. Checked negative on the first. Got worse and worse. Went into emergency room a few days later. Positive and hospitalization for a4 days. Still recovering. Edk

Dr Mercola?

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

MoFo, Laughed so hard it made me cough.

I got my dose of natural D yesterday. Not so hard here Out West. 45F or so, sunny and I was out hanging laundry, feeding chickens, and other stuff in house shirts and no shirt. Lots of sun Out West, free Vitamin D. Even in winter.

Slumster, we are doing everything we possibly can to insure you keep on ticking....I have SandBully and Barnabus lined up to donate their kidneys to you. Kingston is waiting in the wings, if you need your cock replaced - albeit a black dong.

And, Geno has offered his Smartest Man on Fire brain as a donor should yours flip the off button going into Abi-normal mode.


😝🦫

94 people admitted for Covid at a Fox Valley hospital group yesterday here, 80% unvaccinated. That is unsustainable and instead of an RN looking after them, they are getting a new bunch of National Guard hand holders who don't want to be there. A flu shot and triple vacced here and no issues what so ever. If that makes us sheep, then so be it. They had a lady on TV today that got an 18 hour trachea transplant surgery because she was breathing through a hole in her neck because of a Covid breathing tube.

You know what nobody is talking about is the out of pocket cost of spending time in a hospital. I have better things to spend money on.

Damn,

you fellas crackin' me up today.

Who gets to play Dr Frankenfurter to put him all back together though?

Well, Beaver of course...I’m a master with a blade on field meat.

Lol

🦫

How many days have you had it?

Hoping it doesn't take yall, Ball.

Naw...the guy from Idaho that ain't from Salmon.


You would have to eat a pail of them daily.....

I doubt they would give it with one being sick. Increased risks.

That is one of the problems now. Doing vaxes in a pandemic is a big medical no no for the viroligists and immunologists in the know.

Cytokine storm. I hope you get the Regeneron in time, and not Remdisivir. God bless.

My wife is still battling influenza. She is upset, that it will push back her cathartic sugary.

After reading this, I found this description of what you're talking about. I have some of these symptoms right now too.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/cytokine-storm-syndrome-4842383

Ever try to put something back together????

How did the just come up with an exact percentage of eighty per cent unvaxxed? Does the hospital keep a US citizen vaxxed database? What if you have had one jab? 2 jabs no booster? What does vaxxed mean according to Biden?

Thank your Government, thank the Chinks.. thank the DemocRats, thank the diseased illegal aliens that just walk across the border with the DemocRats and Biden's blessings.

Every person who has died from this 'plandemic' his been killed by our government... those responsible will never have to face the music at all.

thank the George Soros of the world....


anyone who comes down with this Agent of Chemical and Biological Warfare, has our prayers and prayers for God's Blessings...

Hope you recover quickly Pat....with no long term effects....

I’ve been going around to the 5 kitchens in my restaurant group putting out fires from covid outbreaks; filling gaps from absences and what not. Been working side by side with a great number of kids who popped positive just after I worked in close contact with them. I haven’t caught it for a second time, yet. My opinion, for the Schitt it’s worth, is that natural immunity is pretty strong.

Same groups of people said to stay home until you're dying before getting treatment?

Same group that said Hydroxychloroquine was dangerous?

Same group that said Hydroxychloroquine was ineffective ?

Same group that said Ivermectin was horse wormer?

Same group that agreed with Faukki that Remdisivir was safe?

Same group that gets paid more for more Covid pts on vents?

Same group that gets paid more for more covid deaths?

Same group that got told by DHS to push the vax or be labeled as DOMESTIC TERRORISTS?

YGBSM

When the UK and Israel are correctly reporting the exact opposite?

Dont ask the hard questions.

Top Harvard and Yale Univ virology docs treating hospitalized COVID-19 cases said on Hannity radio two mo ago that most of their hospitalized pts had been vaxed.

Dr Harvy Risch and a top Univ Indian Dr.

That’s exactly what I am doing, giving my report from my hospital bed

Ribka, I suppose that they just asked them if they had been vaccinated for Covid? It seems to me that they wouldn't need the National Guard if the hospital staff itself wasn't coming down with something and calling in sick. You guys won't get Covid vaccinated because the Internet "doctors" say you shouldn't, yet when you get sick you run for the hospitals for an hours long IV Monoclonal Antibody or convalescent plasma IV! The guy next door had Covid-19, got over it and they were paying him a premium for giving blood to get that plasma so that they can give it to you guys who won't get the vaccination in the first place.

Same here. Alot of folks talk chit, but for some its bad news. Wife and I were down and out for weeks. Still not 100% and its been over 2 months. Still dont have all our taste and smell back either

Hospitals here are loaded with vaxed at a much higher rate than unvaxed according to a friends wife who is a head RN. Glad the vax worked for you. Your choice to take it. That will never be in my body though. Give me something safer that will actually keep me from getting sick, you know, like all the other vaxes out there

Hospitals wouldnt be "over run" if they hadnt fired or forced people to quit over a bullchit illegal mandate. They are feeling taxed to the limit because they are rolling with half staff

You dont need the "vaccine" and you dont need the other schit either.

So, the staff was fully vaxed and coming down with "something".

Kind of like maybe why hospitals are letting their Covid positive employees work after forcing them to be vaxed?

99.9879%

After all were fully vaxed and masked (just like in Israel and GB)

Yeah, like after 200 million were vaxed?

Deaths of unvaxed greatly lag deaths of unvaxed where real records are allowed to be kept.

Huh...

I was hunting this past week, and socializing with my next door neighbor. He called me an hour ago to say he had some “Bad News”. I thought he was calling to cancel duck hunting with me this coming Saturday.

Nope, his wife caught the Vid. She’s been feeling poorly since last Wednesday, while he hasn’t noticed any sickness.

He just wanted me to know in case me or my wife started to feel sick.

I really miss Flave right now and his words of comfort.

Lol

😝🦫

Regeneron doesn't do shyt if he's got the Omicron. Try to keep up welcher.

Gotta love it when they clip the legend off the maps and graphs

😂😂

Maybe some reassuring words from Fuucktardski would help ?

Sorry, i did that inadvertantly.

It wont matter anyway. The CDC and MSM is cutting off more than that re true numbers of vax deaths. No one seems to mind those numbers being cut off by them if the person keels over at the injection site or a week or two later.

They will.

The abnormal cancers already showing up in previously vaxed patients are starting to show up already but, of course, are never connected to the immune suppressing jabs.

Trust your big pharma CDC financed by their $4.6 billion. They will keep you up to snuff.

Broken hearts don't count.

Got my positive test back today. Feeling fine. If i hadnt got tested i wouldnt know i had it. Brutal

I felt your pain

It’s so different for person to person.

Mine lasted a day. Couldn’t even call it the flu. Probably latest version. Who knows. All I took was two Tylenol in the beginning.

A gentleman I know had his 38 year old son die of it just before New Years. He did have some medical issues, but not expecting death.

Why did you get tested?

I talk to someone every day that’s an RN is Wisconsin that’s worked a covid unit for 2 years.

They don’t keep track of jabbed vs. unjabbed. They don’t even ask because it’s not relevant.

Those numbers are complete bullshit and you are retarded for falling for it.

I had the Wu-flu back in April- it was more like an ass-kickin’ and a fifth of tequila.

That's what I said when I had it almost two years ago. It was like a two week mezcal hangover.

My step son is in a Covid hospital in Piura. He had the two Sinofarm jabs which means he was basically “unvaccinated” because they are worthless. He was immediately put on Ivermectin by the teledoc and other things. The hospital upped the ante once we go him there.

We received word last night he has 25% lung damage. His girlfriend had the two Pfizer jabs and she tested positive. She is completely asymptomatic. The wife and I have the Janssen and both Pfizer jabs. We tested negative and feel fine.

We were all in super close quarters with him. Read into this what you want. It isn’t meant to be a pro jab post, but these are our experiences in real time.

Or supply a screen shot with no source identified so that it's impossible to read the source document.

But it's safe to say a graph with the words "According to Official UKHSA Vaccine Surveillance Reports" was not prepared by the agency that compiled the data presented in the reports.

I talk to someone every day that’s an RN is Wisconsin that’s worked a covid unit for 2 years.

They don’t keep track of jabbed vs. unjabbed. They don’t even ask because it’s not relevant.

Those numbers are complete bullshit and you are retarded for falling for it.
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Nope.

I’ve taken care of Covid for 2 years in an emergency department and can tell you that’s not true at all for my hospital. It’s part of the triage form-vaccinated or not. Get the daily hospitalization numbers for my heath system and it’s 70-80% non vaccinated. Critical care and ICU numbers even worse. This latest variant is far milder than the delta or other previous ones, but it’s not the vaccinated folks I’m seeing or admitting. I’m not pro mandate for vaccines as I think personal healthcare is a personal choice, but it’s amazing how many non vaccinated people who catch Covid suddenly want to embrace modern medicine and get upset when we can’t fix them. Does ivermectin and vitamins help? I don’t know and honestly I don’t care. After doing this for 2 years I’m convinced it’s a highly contagious individualistic virus and no one can predict how sick you may get. Life is about choices, and sometimes we make bad ones and have to deal with the consequences.

Truth

So you care whether or not someone is vaccinated and you find fault with the unvaccinated but you don't care about ivermectin and whether it works in the treatment of the ailment you see so much of?

Yeah, people like you are the problem, not the people that refuse to be lied to and manipulated for profit.

This desease should be called a global madness or insanity panic, not Covid, with a vaccine that increases the symptons

I do.

Hospitals might not be over run if those same National Guardsmen were being used at our border as intended - or had they not started firing unvaxxed Border Patrol agents.

My sister is on day 3 of the onset of symptoms and day 2 of positive test..she’s a RN, fully vaxxed with Moderna…so far just headcold type symptoms. Right now she’s taking vitamins and zinc with cranberry juice… so far in this pandemic I’ve known about a dozen people who have tested positive….three of them twice. Two have been hospitalized and of those two, one died…. Neither of the two had received vax….
What I find kind of funny and consistent about these pro/con vaccine threads is that the people who have been vaccinated believe (for the most part) that it’s a personal choice, whereas the anti vaxers tend to be the name callers (covtards, dupes, sheep etc.)….yet they are the loudest voices crying foul, when they can’t get a doctor to prescribe the exact prescription remedy they read about on the internet….funny schitt…..

Well, I'd say that most on here think it's a personal choice regardless of their "status," but I don't think 5he same is true of the general population.

I don’t care one bit if my patients are vaccinated or not. In fact, I preface my asking the question by saying it’s in no way a judgement. Defuses things immediately. I fail to see how my taking care of patients who are dying of Covid somehow makes me “the problem”. I take care of every single patient the same, regardless of the problem they are dealing with. In fact, non vaccinated patients are given priority for things like monoclonal therapy, etc. There’s no gain for anyone by making judgements of anyone else’s choices. I just want my patients to get better. You may want to reread my initial statement where I said I wasn’t pro vaccine mandate. I’ll repeat it since it clearly was missed-it’s a personal choice and that’s the way it should be, no different than any other vaccine for anything else.

Completely agree. Covid somehow made everyone person who can access the internet a medical expert.

Whose opinion we can't live without......

Home from the hospital, doing good. Still trying to wrap my head around this thing kicking my a$$ the way it did! Lol

So…? Shouldn’t people be allowed to choose which treatment modality they think is best for them…?

I was a trauma ICU guy until COVID happened, then worked a COVID critical care unit for a year before transferring to emergency. I've very much had the same experience as you. And like you, also do not care vaccine status, and do not support any mandates. We ask vaccine status here, not as part of triage (though most patients already have it on the EMR), but the provider asks and documents it to determine if they are candidates of monoclonal antibodies or the new oral "antibody" treatment. The population we serve is about 70% vaccinated, and of admissions, about 2/3rds are vaccinated, which statistically makes sense. I personally had COVID Jan 2020 and it was mild for me. I again got it in August 2021 and developed pneumonia on day ten. I was experiencing mild symptoms until about day seven. I'm still suffering reduced lung capacity, shortness of breath, and fatigue.

I have learned on this forum, people are quick to make statements based on feeling. They also believe every conspiracy theory that supports their preconceived notions. This is exacerbated by officials that aren't following science. Either way, a large portion of the membership here is quick to call names and make assumptions of those that post anything they disagree with. Keep your skin thick, brother!

Just walk into a doctor's office and demand which way you're treated for pain....say you want fentanyl. Get back to us.

So you’re equating “demanding fentanyl at a doctor’s office” with choosing a treatment modality that is ‘offered’ to those who become sick…?

Good to hear.

Good luck to you...

Missed that... Glad of it.

Absolutely, just as fentanyl isn't indicated for all suffering from pain, neither is a monoclonal antibody treatment indicated for all ill from COVID. Patients should direct their care from approved and indicated options, approved by their physician. After all, their physician is risking his or her license. Treatment should based on their expert opinion. If the patient doesn't like it, they should seek other options.

It's not as easy as walking into a Doctor's office and demanding Fentanyl. Ivermectin and Hydroxy aren't deadly and have been in use for many years. They have been proven helpful in treating many cases of Covid but all healthcare conglomerates around here deny their doctors to prescribe it. They claim that it's not approved by the FDA but neither are the vaccines. The vaccines are not even actually vaccines. This entire pandemic is being used as a political weapon and people are lied to and denied possibly beneficial medication. Children are being force vaccinated even though their risk is .0001% of being critical even if left untreated after they get Covid. Antibody treatment has been denied people that aren't vaccinated; Why? The great Doctor Fauci has waffled all over the place over the years about masks, vaccinations and the disease itself. The NIH has lied and spent money supporting China's Wuhan lab's research that led to this disease. If you believe that Joe Biden is an expert on anything you might need your head examined.

I tested positive the first week of november. Missed five weeks of work. I have never been that sick that long in my life. I'm 61. Doc says I have the long covid. I feel ok, no stamina low energy. I lost 24 pounds, have only gained 10 back. I'm not vaccinated either. I go wednesday for the shot. I'm no medical expert or can I say what to take or not. All I know is I don't want it again. I know a lot of folks in the rural area I live that are gone because of covid,

You're proving yourself another of the internet "experts" that has not a notion of how things actually work. Weird, we admitted a patient taking ivermectin, which can be deadly, for severe dehydration with a critically low sodium, magnesium, etc. My sister-in-law had a patient that REFUSED any treatment other than what she read about on the internet. Well, her first dose of the "safe" hydroxychloroquine caused QT-elongation and ultimately a fatal arrhythmia within hours of administration. But as most of you internet experts, you've tried to qualify your statement with information and opinion that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

The truth is the "safe" treatments are only as "safe" as they are when a trained physician assesses risks and benefits of the drug and prescribes it appropriately.

It would take a doctoral thesis to fully describe how this stupid sumbich could coalesce vaccines with MaB's.

My Doc warned against getting the vax... if you have had the Rona recently... think it was 90 days minimum. I could be wrong. Check with your Doc.

His PA had the Rona... got the shot a month later and it really hurt her bad.

No idea if this is good or bad counsel for others... I am not a Doc. Just what I know.

Personally, I have had the rona enough times I don't much think about getting it a 4th or 5th time any more. Cases become almost nothing after the first or second one... at least in my experience.

This patient - did they have any history of arrhythmia or other Cardiovascular disease?

What 'dose' of HCQ did they take?

We did and do stay on those.

You so smaht, thinking everybody else so dumb.

I take Magnesium and several other supplements + Ivermectin once a week as part of a preventive protocol, as well as staying properly hydrated (4-6 bottles of water) every day.

"Trained physicians", as you so gracefully call them as you bow at their feet, have killed 100's of thousands of Americans with their commie suckassing.

You just got over it and want to get the shot?
There might be something in this article worth noting for long haulers.
https://mygotodoc.com/covid-19/covid-19-the-long-haul

Bless your little heart, another internet expert. What do you do for a living?


Take all the bullshit you want, but you are creating expensive piss by taking supplements. Your body doesn't absorb them unless you're already low...just extra work for your kidneys!

Nobody asserted that it was. For those who chose not to get the vaccine, but then get sick with Covid, they should ‘still’ be able to choose to get monoclonal antibody treatment if it’s indicated for them.

Questions worthy of a 10 page thread.

Yes, that was the assertion....the patient gets to choose between available treatments. Available does not equal indicated.

"Choosing" monoclonal antibody treatment if it's indicated...and the physician and pharmacist determine if its indicated.

Glad you are recovering. Look at the bright side, due to faulty tests, greedy medical facilities and people who are convinced that had it, but didn't, it there is no credible evidence that anyone has ever gotten it twice.

Congratulations are in order.

And anyone who thinks it can't kick their ass is a fool.

Are you a physician?

Wordplay.

Available for that particular patient, specifically…based upon their particular illness and their particular symptomatology and their particular indications…was implied.

What’s really interesting is the long term effects of covid. Know some unjabbed, but had COVID folks who got all kinds of weird stuff going on. But again, it’s a tiny sample size.

Not at all word play. Statement was taken as it was presented. Don't try to back out of it.


And if you're truly in belief that it should be patient choice of indicated treatments, stop getting upset that (insert internet drug) isn't being "up to the patient". The patient doesn't have a license on the line. The patient isn't responsible for malpractice.

It wasn’t taken as intended, especially in light of my interaction with Windfall…from which all of my interaction with you resulted.

To insinuate that someone was wrong for seeking monoclonal antibody treatment after refusing the vaccine…and that was the insinuation that I got from Windfall’s post…is in my estimation absurd (apologies to Windfall if I misunderstood him).

What is interesting is the occurrence of things like ED, infertility, and other abnormalities that are being reported. Some of those things are also being reported as vaccine side-effects.

And you've missed his point. Why would one seek, or even beg for monoclonal antibody treatment if they were unwilling to be vaccinated?

Many use the argument that the vaccines aren't FDA-approved (they are). MAB are only emergency authorized.

Many argue that survival for COVID is 99.9% so a vaccine is unwarranted. If its survivable to the point a vaccine isn't something you pursue, why pursue MAB?

This types of logical fallacies are limitless on the topic.

I am absolutely of the opinion that it is ultimately the choice of the patient as to which indicated treatments he or she thinks would be best for them.

No you're missing the point. Why would you deny anyone any known treatment whether they've been vaccinated or not?

And the physician determines what is indicated. PERIOD.

Are you a physician?

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Are you a physician?

So those sick with lung cancer shouldn’t seek treatment because of their earlier unwillingness to stop smoking…?

And those sick with coronary artery disease shouldn’t seek treatment because of their earlier unwillingness to be active and exercise and eat a healthy diet…?

Dissed ivermectin, and pulled a medical expert and a dead person outta his ass in the same post.

Covtard trifecta.

Both of these statements are true. We have government promoting and in fact mandating a certain treatment protocol that enriches its donors. There is substantial documentation that other treatments work as well or better with less severe side effects. Doctors are caught in the middle and their license is on the line. It should not be this way. Vaccinated or not, the patient should be informed of the efficacy and side effects of all the treatments and given the opportunity to decide what he wants to do. The same applies to any medical condition.

I did not say that, did I? Notice you didn't address the second half of my post.

Thank you for making my point for me. Internet experts like yourself are all predictable.

I've personally seen the deaths of far more than one person, after being pulled from trauma critical care to COVID critical care. More like in the dozens if not approaching low hundreds.

I addressed the entirety of your post with the pointed questions that I asked.

At least you admit to your ineffectiveness.

I'm not so sure there is substantial documentation that other treatments work, in fact many of the articles professing as such have been debunked. I am not opposed to studying further, in fact it should be but if the results continue to be that many of these drugs do more harm than good, there is a certain segment of the public (and the readership here) wouldn't believe it as they have their mind made up. It is a sad predicament physicians are placed in, I agree. There is even another level: who will pay for it? Insurance companies do not pay for treatments without solid evidence and indication--and sometimes not even then. I wholeheartedly believe part of the flaw is our system is the lack of fee-for-service in which the patient pays directly for services that he or she and their physician believe is the best treatment protocol. All insurance has done is muddy the water and make certain more expensive treatments out of the question.

Not ineffective at all. But thank you for continuing to prove what an ignorant ass you are.

Agreed. Dude has a god complex as seen in other posts
Yeah thats right, just take only the garbage that big pharm pushes that has 8 million potential side effects and wreck people on a daily basis lol

All you've done since you started trollin this subject is puke up the same bullshit that was shat out over the last 2 years.

It's nothin new or special, and neither are you.

You HAVE to be your own expert because EVERYONE YOU'VE PAID to give you good advice are all self serving LIARS!

Go to your medical provider and they are just going down the phone tree of symptoms and giving you the Rx the list leads them to. All at the direction of the head bean counter who is really the boss/owner of the mega corp medical provider who owns them. There isn't a private practice left in AMERICA who would give an honest personal opinion. You think that nurse practitioner is going to risk their $100,000 job over tube of horse paste or your sore throat and sniffles? They will give you want the system says to give you or NOTHING AT ALL more likely.

None of your business what I do for a living. I'm an educated American, which suckass kool-aid dispensers like you hate. Waaay beyond being a sheeple that you obviously troll for.

Bless your heart. Keep sucking that commie ass and chkunt-splaining.

Truth.

I disagree. You've acted as if one should automatically be entitled to receive MABs because they are positive for COVID. It is a limited resource (and much more limited thanks to the wisdom of our idiot in thief), and should be given only to the patients most in need. I literally had a patient cuss me last week because none were available and his consult for MAB wasn't approved.

But back to the meat and potatoes of the discussion; would you not have physicians recommend stopping smoking? Healthy diet and exercise? And encourage preventative health care? Because that is exactly what vaccination is.

Is that the best you have? Call me a "commie" because you don't like what I say, which has nothing to do with communism? And you're an "educated" man? Sure you are....Bless your little bleeding heart.

Are you a scientist? Do you have any training in medical research?

Is that really all you can come up with? Call me a liar? Show me on the doll where the facts hurt you, buttercup.

You keep trying so hard to deflect. Stick to the subject.

1- Vaccines don't work.
2- Masks don't work.
3- Mandates will not work.
4- Ivermectin, hcq, supplements and therapeutics DO WORK.

But keep sucking that ass and dispensing your commie kool-aid.

Now FOAD.

God-complex? Really? Because I share professional experience? I guess if I took what morons say on the internet as gospel, I'd be better at my job. Give me a break!


And as I said, I don't care what you do with your body, but a boat load of supplements is nothing more than creating expensive pee if you're not deficient of said vitamins and minerals due to existing illness or poor diet. Sorry it hurts your feelings, but its the truth. That's how our bodies work--we discard excess as waste, and we preserve things we are deficient in.

Physicians are MY ADVISORS, not my OWNER.
PERIOD

I guarantee you can't prove a thing you say with anything but tinfoil website bullshit.

You're literally the stupidest [bleep] I've ever seen on here.

I can't find anywhere that I said masks, mandates, etc do work. Since when was that the subject?

A person doesn't deserve to be used as a guinea pig or killed with Remdesivir because they have the China flu. Doctors orders means whatever the CDC says goes, show me the $money. Ivermectin, hydroxychlorine, vitamins, some sunshine and family is a better option than any hospital, a lot less folks would of died.

Who said they were your owner? Your reading comprehension is terrible. I literally said that patients should have choice of appropriate treatment determined by their physician. You require a physician to legally attain many medical treatments. If you don't like your physician's options for you, find another one.

Is this really hard to get for you idiots?

You pompous stupid mutherfukker. There are countless personal reports right here on this BBS, you stupid fugk!

Get off your lazy intelligentsia ass and read them, you fugking overeducated moron!

You poor soul...

That is the truth. You've got to sort through it all and make your own judgments, make your own choices.

Being your own expert is a good thing. Trying to be other people's expert is another.

You sound like another book smart dumbazz.

Keep it up! Change the subject yet some more! You're doing such a fine job of representing your opinions as it is. This is rich!

You sound like just a plain ole "dumbazz," as you so eloquently put it.

The truth finally comes from this commie cokksukker's lips. This is what he really thinks. Everybody here is below him and his intelligence.

Stupid fugk.

My wife was diagnosed with MS by the foremost MS expert in the intermountain west. She was put on a regimen of expensive MS drugs to little benefit and extensive side effects. At one point, she went to a seminar for MS sufferers and the main speaker was the MS expert. His presentation focused on the benefit of drugs he prescribed for her. A bit of research revealed he was paid a couple hundred $K annually to “consult” for the drug manufacturer.

After a year of the drug regimen and no benefit, her research led her to investigate CCSVI as the cause of her symptoms rather than MS. Against the “expert” physician’s advice and actually hostile reception to treatment for CCSVI, we traveled to another state to get treatment for CCSVI. Her symptoms were completely relieved by the treatment (off-label use of stents in veins as opposed to FDA approved use of stents in arteries).

If she had simply followed the advice and treatment provided by the “expert” physician who limited his practice to treating MS patients, she’d likely be in a wheelchair now, 15 years after he first saw her. Blindly following “experts” of any stripe is a fool’s errand; individual research and personal involvement in medical treatment isn’t just a good idea, it’s mandatory if you’re at all interested in the best possible outcome.

Discussions with democrats always devolve into name calling authoritative rants.

And you've been name-calling as soon as I posted in this thread because you believe what you read on forums mores than of those that do it professionally.

Yes, you are an IDIOT with terrible READING COMPREHENSION. You cannot separate your POLITICS from REALITY. Afterall anybody that doesn't agree with what you believe when it comes to SCIENCE which you have ZERO EXPERINCE in must be a "COKKSUCKER" and a "COMMIE".

You wonder people don't take you seriously or believe you to be an intelligent human being.

Only question left ta be decided, is whether your credibility on this forum died *with* covid, or *of* covid.

Yep, and that's what that dirty democrat DIRT has been up to since the beginning.

Good for your wife for being relentless and advocating for herself! Glad she's doing well!

Is this supposed to be evidence of your success?

No, he doesn't.


He sounds like someone employed in a low to midlevel medical job, who's parroting what he thinks is the dominant gestalt in corporate medicine.

I've already addressed you. Your reading comprehension is terrible, isn't it?

Whoa there Dr. Freud, you're gonna have to dumb it down a little.

You were warned......

Fireball.
My suggestion to you is to seek some sort of treatment as soon as possible.

Whether it’s medical, high doses of vitamins and ivermectin,Whatever’s available but please don’t just do nothing and hope it goes away.

That’s what I did, nothing!!
I never thought this [bleep] would catch up to me even if it did
I’d just spit in its eye and and keep moving on.

I’m on day nine in the hospital, have no idea when I’m getting out of here or if I’m even going to make it out of here.

My lung has collapsed three times in the last seven days, before that [bleep] got so bad for weeks I couldn’t sleep I couldn’t eat I couldn’t breathe My body ached so [bleep] bad there’s no words to describe it I was on fire freezing my ass off.
words cannot describe how [bleep] sick I really was.
All because I did nothing! And thought I was some kinda bad ass that Covid couldn’t touch.

This is coming from a guy that hasn’t even had a cold in 40 years. But I can honestly tell you This Covid [bleep] can get real very quick. Best of luck to you.

Edit. I just et turned 59 last month,I don’t smoke, I don’t drink, I quit chewing a year ago.
I lead a very active life, 60+ days of Chukar hunting every year,I probably ski 30+ days a year, weeks of Elk and deer hunting every year. And much more.


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Thanks. And by the way, when you mention vitamins and supplements as generating expensive urine, you should differentiate between water-soluble and fat-suluble. Very important differences between the two.

Weird stuff. I personally know 17 people that had Covid in the past 2 months, some were very mild and the worse of them said it was much less a problem than when they had the flu.

It is no joke for sure. And it can be unpredictable how the body responds. Once the infection hits your lungs, it scars them and makes them very fragile. Good luck to you and here's to a speedy and thorough recovery.

You're boasting about witnessing hundreds of patients die, and giving medical advice? Lol

You're welcome. That is almost going too deep into the subject and it isn't as simple as saying water vs fat soluble. For instance, zinc is insoluble, but we don't take zinc, we take zinc citrate. Magnesium becomes water soluble when its combined with oxygen in the bloodstream after absorption. ADEK is the acronym for fat-soluble vitamins which are not the vitamins largely being touted as the "cures" for COVID with the exception of D, which is a whole other topic indeed.

Again, reading comprehension sucks. I'm not boasting, I'm saying this stuff can be REAL. I didn't say "hundreds", I said in the dozens to low hundreds Do you know the fatality rate of COVID patients receiving invasive mechanical ventilation as you see in a critical care unit? Early on it neared 100%, no joke. As things have gone on, depending on demographic breakdown, anywhere from 45-75% Do you know how many patients I saw working in that setting for a year? Did I offer medical advice? Hmmm, critical thinking, buddy. You can do better than this.

Nope. But if it is indicated for them, I don’t think it is wrong for them to choose that treatment modality simply because they were unwilling to receive the Covid shots.

I work on an offshore oil platform. We have sent in 20 positive cases in the last week. Had 60 test positive at the heliport trying to come offshore in the last3 weeks. half my crew has had bad chills and a headache with a runny nose for2 days. This omicron is going to get us to herd immunity. Many of the positives have no symptoms at all. Vaxxed or unvaxxed.

That’s all good. But it’s not wrong for people to ‘still’ seek healthcare for problems they’re having, even ‘if’ earlier decisions that they made might have contributed to…or even caused…those problems.

Physicians in America kill over 500,000 Americans a year with their mistakes. Twenty per cent of FDA approved drugs are pulled off of the market every year because they have been found to be very toxic or do not work. Pharm Companies have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Americans and paid out billions in lawsuits over their FDA approved drugs.


The FDA daily recommended allowances are a guess. They have no clue what amounts of vitamins and minerals are healthy and necessary

Remember the Government food pyramid? Putting high carb, high sugar items at the bottom as an essential part of our diet??

What compound in Ivermectin is toxic and how does this compound affect the cells or organs or chemical processes in a toxic manner?


So ivermectin has no anti viral properties despite the fact it has been used successfully on tens of millions of people around the world to successfully fight viral diseases.

What haven't mono clonal anti bodies been used since this began in March of 2020? Why did Biden ban them now after they have been very successful?


You're a moron

And I never said or implied otherwise.

You stupid mutherfukker. Are you still here rattling off your bulshit? You dumb fugk kool-aid dispenser.

Yes it is. The assumption here though is that we were only reactive. We chose not to take Ivermectin as a regular regimen (and obviously not prednisone) but everything else we took daily and still do. We had all these on hand and it worked out well as we became symptomatic over the holiday weekend when it would have been very hard or impossible to obtain them. I had the Ivermectin and prednisone from the pharmacy on hand months ago in case one of us contracted it and in sufficient quantities to treat us both. That's about as proactive as it gits.

The stupid sonuvabich has no basis in fact in his blatherings and continues to ignore FACTS.

You shouldn't comment, especially calling somebody "moron" when you've repeated an out of context lie from an easily debunked "paper". Its called "monoclonal antibodies", you twit. Its obvious you've not read through here.

Please, share with us your "facts" and prove them to be.

I know a bunch too, some never really got sick.

Nice to see you've come to add more intelligent conversation. Its evident you're a scholar and a gentleman.

Must be a shît ton of Lupus patients dropping dead from QT elongation.

That deadly Hydroxychloroquine!!!

Scores of pukey patients on Zofran also dropping like flies from QT elongation too.

Dont tell the doc you’re nauseated, could be instant death above 8mg

Yup.

Arguing it doesn't help is one thing. Acting like it's not a common-use med is quite another.

Make that "low level".


I stand corrected.

Is this a fifteen round bout. If so the pack needs to pick up the attack! The Tyler guy is scoring multiple hits, and dodging all the name calling. Yet neither side has posted any facts to support their attack. Just personal opinion. I'm heading for the popcorn early today! Keep it up gentlemen.

You ignorant fugk. You're probably the least educated person on covid and preventive and treatment measures on this entire board.

Not going to do somebody else's research. The facts are out there. This twit chooses to ignore them. Don't care. But, will always put down kool-aid dispensers or those profiting from commie bulshit.

Why don't you post up those credentials, big boy!

Ok. I'll try to do better. Ivermectin is deadly, right. Hydroxychloroquine is deadly, right? Monoclonal antibodies are ineffective, now? Vitamins, meh. Vaccines are approved. So I go to Pfizer's website.

https://www.pfizer.com/products/product-detail/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has not been approved or licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 16 years of age and older. The emergency use of this product is only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of the medical product under Section 564(b)(1) of the FD&C Act unless the declaration is terminated or authorization revoked sooner.
United States
© 2022 Pfizer Inc. All rights reserved

How about commenting on Dr. Haider's website. Save the debunk nonsense and show useful links.

https://mygotodoc.com/covid-19/covid-19-the-long-haul

Why don't you?

QT elongation doesn't kill. Arrhythmias do. The body is more prone to arrhythmia when in the presence of infection, comorbidity, or other medications. You know, sick people. As an educated person, you know that typically lupus is diagnosed most frequently in females in their early 20s through late 30s.

As the educated person you are, you realize that walking around with a relatively young and healthy body, risk of QT elongation for a hydroxychloroquine-taking patient is relatively small outside the presence of other illness. However, according to Hooks, et al in "Effects of hydroxychloroquine treatment on QT interval," something as minor as increased ventricular rate of a hydroxychloroquine-recipient significantly increases QT-elongation. This phenomenon also increases with age. The presence of a COVID-19 infection, as all infections, creates an elevated heart rate. Combine dehydration and dealing with the biproducts of cellular destruction present in the disease process, renal function is severely impaired which further compounds the problem according to the previously cited research and countless others. So yes, HCQ very much CAN be deadly if prescribed in the wrong situation, which my sister-in-law's patient found out the hard way. And yes, even those receiving therapy for SLE have an increased likelihood of death. Hooks, et al explains:

"Survival in relation to QTc
Of the 819 patients in the whole study cohort, 269 (33%) died over a median 5.97 (3.33–10.11) years of follow-up. In comparison to those who survived, the patients who died were older, more likely to be men, and more likely to have coronary disease, heart failure, and CKD. In univariable Cox regression analysis, QTc >470 ms during HCQ therapy was associated with greater mortality (HR 1.78; 95% CI 1.16–2.71; P = .008) (Figure 2 ). However, after adjustment for age, sex, and comorbidities, QTc >470 ms during HCQ treatment was no longer associated with long-term mortality. In patients with paired ECG, delta QTc was not associated with mortality (HR 1.001; 95% CI 0.998–1.005; P = .51)."

And as you remember, there was a temporary HCQ emergency-use authorization that was revoked by the CDC. It was used in combination with azithromycin with some promise until a trial with azithromycin alone showed like outcomes.

I know you thought you were being snarky, but the evidence is clear, HCQ DOES indeed affect lifespan of SLE patients and poses significant risk in the presence of significant infection, comorbidities, and other medications that may be given during the COVID disease process, such as prophylactic antibiotics to prevent pneumonia, such as Levaquin.

Covid disinformation has literally killed Campfire members.

Carry on.

"On August 23, 2021, FDA announced the first approval of a COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older."

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepa...aty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine

Still waiting.

Why would anyone listen to an unemployed uneducated drug addict like you?

I haven’t read any of this, I’m so sick of this crap. I have had it twice, the Alpha, and it was bad, then got over the 3rd kind a week ago, it was nothing, I never stopped working here on ranch. I am glad I haven’t taken the shot, and feel as strong as a horse at 66.

Man, did you bat zero on that one! But keep swingin’.

So now that it is demonstrated there ARE risks from HCQ, let us ask ourselves if we accept the risk, does it actually work? It doesn't appear so! Now that half a million people have used HCQ to treat COVID-19, there are plenty of data for retrospect.

From Hennekens, et al in the January 2022 issue of The American Journal of Medicine:



"Hydroxychloroquine in Post-Exposure Prophylaxis
One randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial included 821 post-exposure prophylaxis subjects, of whom 107 developed COVID-19 over 14 days. The 49 of 414 (11.8%) assigned hydroxychloroquine and 58 of 407 (14.3%) given placebo resulted in a nonsignificant relative risk (RR) of 0.83 (P = .35). Overall, 140 of 349 (40.1%) assigned hydroxychloroquine reported a side effect by day 5, as compared with 50 of 352 (16.8%) assigned placebo, a highly significant increase (P < .001). Nausea, loose stools, and abdominal discomfort were the most common, and there were no serious intervention-related adverse effects.7

In another study, among 2314 healthy contacts of 672 COVID-19 index cases, 1116 were randomized to hydroxychloroquine and 1198 to usual care. COVID-19 occurred among 5.7% assigned to hydroxychloroquine and 6.2% to usual care, yielding a nonsignificant RR of 0.89 (95% confidence interval [CI], 0.54-1.46). Adverse events were significantly higher in hydroxychloroquine (51.6%) compared with usual care (5.9%), but there were no reported cardiac arrhythmias.8

In the most recently published trial, 671 households were randomly assigned: 337 (407 participants) to hydroxychloroquine and 334 (422 participants) to the control group. By day 14, there were 53 events in hydroxychloroquine and 45 among usual care, yielding a nonsignificant RR = 1.10 (95% CI, 0.73-1.66]; P > .20). The frequency of participants experiencing adverse events was significantly higher in the hydroxychloroquine group than the control group (66 [16.2%] vs 46 [10.9%]; P = .026).9"


But what about hospitalized patients--the sickest of the sick? It turns out no efficacy for treating them, either. In fact, a small increase in mortality exists:

"Our meta-analysis of hydroxychloroquine in hospitalized patients with COVID-19 yields a nonsignificant RR = 1.10 (95% CI, 0.99-1.23). In hospitalized patients, there is an approximate statistically nonsignificant estimated 10% increase in mortality, but with sufficient precision to rule out a reduction as small as 1%. Further, these data suggest equality, but the point estimate is in the direction of small harm on mortality."

Supplements do work. I was extremely vitamin d deficient due to having a bout will melanoma skin cancer and avoiding the sun at all costs. Doctor orders vit d3 supp and after a few months, the number begins to rise. There are alot of people probably taking things they dont need, but to make a blanket statement like youre doing is just incorrect. You keep bashing anyone with a differing opinion as you as well. You arent the begining, middle and end of any discussion. Your god complex shows in every post

You stupid fugk. An entire province of India had nothing BUT Ivermectin to work with. They came out of it with VERY FEW deaths.

You have proven to be one of those educated morons who keep posting suckass dribble while ignoring reports FROM ACTUAL REAL MEMBERS HERE who have themselves bounced back from covid with therapeutics or have family members who have.

You are nothing more than a conventional medicine cuck who cannot/will not listen to anything other than their own voice, which makes you less than useless.

As kingston said, POST UP THOSE CREDENTIALS, BIG SHOT.

Otherwise, you're nothing more than a mouthy troll spewing commie bile.

FOAD.

Supplements do work. I was extremely vitamin d deficient due to having a bout will melanoma skin cancer and avoiding the sun at all costs. Doctor orders vit d3 supp and after a few months, the number begins to rise. There are alot of people probably taking things they dont need, but to make a blanket statement like youre doing is just incorrect. You keep bashing anyone with a differing opinion as you as well. You arent the begining, middle and end of any discussion. Your god complex shows in every post
Couldnt agree more. Our chitty gov and the ahole doctors that followed orders killed hundreds of thousands of people in this pandemic

Again, did you read what I wrote? I specifically said, unless you're deficient..

The War on Ivermectin, HCQ, and other cheap drugs to treat Covid-19

You stated it was none of my business what you do for a living. I can return the favor. Nice to see you've got nothing but more name-calling.

But really, commie? Is that the best you have? Troll? I've been a member here for years. If you don't like what I'm saying, you know, with cited sources based on science, you're welcome to ignore me. But tinfoil blogs, fake news cites, and all that seem to be your thing. The world sees through you.

Some advice for you, son, its better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you're an idiot than open your mouth and prove it.

Your are confusing single anecdotal reports with aggregated data. The former means nothing, other than ID’ing some phenomena that might bear further investigation. The latter IS the further investigation, and does mean something.

You’re also conveniently ignoring those who chose your path and died. D’oh.

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Israel, cases. Unvaxed, Double vaxed, Triple vaxed.

Crawl back under your rock, you ignorant liberal cuck. Many more have taken "my path" and lived, than chosen to follow "conventional medicine" path and lived after being exposed to c-19, whether before or after "vaccine".

JACC => Just another commie cuck. Lol

PS- wish you lived closer. When the SHTF I'd be coming and taking your food.

It effects different folks differently. Or it's different viruses.

My friend Randy is one of the toughest men I have ever met and yet he got "Covid19" and it put him in the hospital for a day, and in bed for5. He was at home for 3 weeks.

I got it and I was over it in less then 2 full days, (one full day, and by the afternoon of day 2 I had no feelings of sickness or any fever at all) but didn't get my senses of smell and taste back for 3-4. I have had the flus in the past that were very bad, but "covid19" for me was so mild I was able to ignore it without any difficulty. I have nicked my fingers and hands working at my bench with tools which took me 2 minutes to stop the bleeding, yet such minor cuts were far worse then "Covid19."

My 89 year old mother got it and so did my 67 year old sister. My mom was sick for 6 days and my sister for 8. Both said it was "just a cold".

But our friend Sarah who is a deputy Sheriff here in this county got it so bad she told me she was never that sick in her life. It kept her sick for almost a month.

Clearly it's not predictable. Covid19 is a contraction for Corona infectious Disease of 2019. Some doctors I correspond with tell me they are of the belief it's not A disease (as in ONE disease) but it's actually about 9 different ones. Said another way, the medical industry calls covid19 "covid19" but they also call about 8 other things "covid-19" too, and that a lot of the problem with treatment. They are trying a "broad-brush" approach with no actual isolation of the specific virus at all. The tests are wildly inaccurate and come up "positive" many times, but most of those are what are called "False Positives"

I tested positive and I did have a mild cold. I did loose all my taste and since of smell, but I was over the bad feelings in less then 2 days and was 100% over all symptoms in 4 days. Randy thought he was dying and so did Sarah.

Maybe we all had "tests" that said we had "covid19" but I am convinced we had different diseases. Sarah and Randy believe they would die, but I have had worse paper cuts. Yet we all took the same tests.

I have a problem believing we had the same disease.

Info revealed in Sen Ron Johnsons Senate investigation. Not good for Biden, Faukki or Pfizer.





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Twerler, how much do you get paid to gaslight us for a guy who said the border was closed and the vax would prevent COVID-19 and who said Chyna is our friend?

How much do you get paid to lie for Pfizer who essentially said the vax is good for a month.

How much are you paid to lie for a guy who said the virus was from an undercooked Wuhan bat?

Uttar Pradesh early on liked to talk about how they beat COVID-19 with Ivermectin, but many ignore extreme lockdown measures. Ultimately, to date, they have a 1.15% death rate, on par with many others in that part of the world. India as a whole is sitting at a 1.21% death rate.

One article clearly shows India didn't "beat" COVID.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-covid-19-cases/articleshow/89107431.cms

Did it take you all day to come up with this there, pussycat? I invite you to please quote where I did so. It amazes me you people can't read something and comprehend. Rather you fill in the blanks with things you make up.

Certainly, testing shows only COVID-19 and does not determine which variant you have. Most all labs in the country can't detect which variant.

So, since Trump is really the president and "in charge," why is this being allowed to happen?!?!???

They treated it effectively with what they had - Ivermectin. And did equal or better than the US with so-called "vaccines".

Now, Tell us about your credentials. Paddler's "brother"?

LMAO.

The better question is, its Trump's vaccine. Why doesn't anybody want it?

This bitch is just followin a script.

LOL

Or was it their draconian lock-downs and complete violation of freedom?

Another .gov suckass.

Lol.

Paddler diddler.

Lol.

Trump said HCQ and Ivermectin were good, so they must be. Trump said get vaccinated and pushed Operation Warp Speed. Now if you point out vaccination statistics and suggest individuals make that decision for themselves, you must be a Biden supporter? Or as some of the fine folks here say, a "commie cuck". But if you're anti-vax, pro-supplements that you have no evidence you need, you're a Trump-flag waving American Pie eating son of Uncle Sam?

The US is at the top of the heap in numbers of deaths per 100,000.

Fl and S Dakota didnt nearly reach the numbers, percentage wise, Ca, Wi, Mi and NY did.

Sorry Charlie, ill believe my own eyes.

The central and equatorial African countries have about the lowest death counts on earth because Hydroxychloroquine is sold OTC for malaria.

Id dig it all up and post it for you but im watching the game and you already know it. You're just a paid lying Dimocommie POS and you know that too.

Don't worry, nobody expects you will come up with an intelligent response. You're a waste of bandwidth and you too can go on the ignore list.

But we do expect lieberals to lie.

You will believe your own eyes? Have you been to Africa recently? California?

By the way, most of Africa has terrible reporting/testing...so bad many won't report statistics because they are so incomplete.

For the record, case/fatality ratio is a more accurate descriptor in comparing countries.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

No, i was gone to a gun show, got back to start the game and did it in a commercial.

Is that why you're a liar?

You're one of those, huh? You watch a bunch of over-paid dudes playing a children's game getting on their knees to talk about how bad they have it? You're so woke supporting those BLM folks.

LOL.

That's the next line in the covtard script.

Don't forget ta post bout your dead relatives/close friends.

A couple of buds have been. Got loads of trophies. They wouldnt lie because they arent lieberals.

Because its dangerous and doesnt work. Dont care if its trumps or not. Not touching that garbage

Wow

India is pretty low for a shîthole country

Must be the ivermectin

But how can I believe you?

But you keep repeating the tinfoil script...so there's that. Next quote me some Dr. Malone or even some Alex Jones.

Also love that there are doctors now refusing to help people who are unvaxed, just because they chose to not put that garbage in their bodies. Fuggers should be hung

The claims were just made last week. I doubt anyone wants to mention it to him.

That's an assessment you can make for yourself based on co-morbidities, risk, etc. As its panning out, it looks like 60% lower mortality rate and really no contraction/transmission rate improvement. The DoD data looks pretty interesting...

Ya don't try and educate a pigeon.

Lieberals always have a chip on their shoulder and like to make others miserable because they are miserable and misery loves company.

They are miserable because they lie. Being a liar carries a curse. The curse is that they see others as themselves and live life thinking everyone else is a POS liar like them, even their associates.

Live and die and go to hell with it Twirler. It is written, A liar will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

A clue, Twirler.

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Fugging all of them!!!!

And what have I lied about? Or since when was I a liberal? You're literally lying right now. Your own logic can be applied to your soul's final resting place, I suppose.

Beat on lying cuck liberals long enough and their true stripes come out.

Just another liberal chkunt TDS Trump hater. Love it!

Lol.

Your links don't work, but good night, pussy cat. Get on your knees and support that BLM with your ratings.

So Twirler, tell us how dangerous monoclonal antibodies are.

Why is Bidet blocking them.

Oh, nevermind. Pfizer is coming out with their special pill.

How the C_A created Covid

https://redpill78news.com/peter-daszaks-ecohealth-alliance-cia-front-created-covid-19/

Obvious to all, you are the demoRAT here.

All I've heard of are family doctors firing patients who aren't getting it or prohibiting them from face to face office visits. I don't know that that's a reason to kill somebody. I mean after all, that's slavery to compel their labor and denial of property to force them to allow people onto their private property. That's almost as bad as those liberals that wanted to force the baker to make the gay wedding cake.

Again, you're too [bleep] stupid to read posts. I never said monoclonal antibodies are dangerous or that the practice should be ended. Though, I suppose administrators do believe they pose some risk of anaphylaxis because they only administer them with 50mg of diphenhydramine, 1 G of acetaminophen, and a liter of saline. Overall, it is rare to see side-effects.

Serious question, what the [bleep] is wrong with you? Why do you keep on trying to insert positions that I haven't taken? Do you have some sort of fetish?

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4 year Delta. Watch the news the week of Mar 8, '22.

Piddler twirker twatter .gov suckass profiteer. Your camouflage cloak is off, chkunt.

Good thing then that all mono clonal anti body treatment has now been banned by our govt. Yeh, believe the FDA science . Why does FDA still have that ivermectin is dangerous and is not an anti viral on the web site?

Monoclonal antibody treatment hasn't been banned, per se. The government is no longer paying for it, and certain types of infusion centers have lost their emergency use authorizations, because, you know, without government paying for them they can't function. Not sure you're asking me about this? Is this some sorta "gotcha" where, again, I never said or implied such. Are you just looking for an avenue to take out your anger? Sure seems like it. Well go ahead, little buddy, if you can't deal with your emotions, just let it all out so you feel better.

Because the congress critters and "conventional medicine" "follow the science" big shot liars can't profit from it. Plus, the suck-ass profiteers like twerker.

Twirler, youre too stupid to be able to connect the dots.

There Que posted 4 years ago that there is a big red wave coming.

Dan Scvino just reminded us. You and your dimocommie crew are fixing to get washed away.

You best remember Trumps words from spring of 20. The death penalty is still in effect for treason. Was he giving you a clue too?

It’s just how it works around here. Straw-man arguments for the WIN! So they think anyway.

Lingers while totally unwelcome.

Surely Twirler can easily explain this.

Agree there

English not your first language, huh? Or just that bad at spelling, grammar, and so on. You really should work on it.

"You and your dimocommie crew"?

Do you think you're insulting with your childish name calling? Since when does not subscribing to the religion of ivermectin and HCQ make you a democrat? Or a "dimocommie"?

I know, you won't answer that. You're too busy worshipping your God ivermectin.



ETA: you have one more chance not to be a Q-tard and say something intelligent before you go on the block list, little miss sassy pants.

Im watching the game, lame brain. What, are you too stupid to figure it out? Mommy had to fix everything perfect for you too?

Typical corksucking commie move to deflect and change the narrative.

Don’t put jag on ignore. He’s got no filter; he’s a great window into that whole faction of.... whatever the hell these people are these days.

Jag’s worldview is predicated on your literal destruction. Know that, and his Christian window-dressing falls right off and what’s left is that the guy is batshìt crazy. But, as I say.... he’s living under their big tent. Better to keep guys like him well in view.

Another worthless comment, another brain-dead assessment. But hey, you're there supporting BLM watching a bunch of over-grown men play children's games. Get on your knees, bitch. You're officially on the ignore list. Good job! Second one today!

Is this verified? I mean it doesnt surprise me one bit. Just curious if its been verified

What's funny is guys like him and the other Q-tards believe they are actually making some sort of point! They are proud of how far in the sand their heads are buried. And the notion they think their insults on the internet somehow hurt somebody is laughable at best. Ironically, he's acting like he claims the "democommies" act. One step further, I'm about as much a conservative/libertarian as it gets but he cannot separate his feelings from the facts.

For some reason it isn't making it past my content filter and won't show up. I have a hard time believing anything he posts would be verified. What exactly is it?

Who cares what anyone does or thinks is good for them. If it works for you, great, leave it with you.

Round five coming to a screen near you. Gotta pop another bag.

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Who is winning? Truth or lies?

Who is going to flatten these curves, Twirler?



I'll give you a clue. The same guy who won this battle. TRUMP

Whoa, who woulda thunkit? Death count in India was sky rocketing untill they started using

I V E R M E C T I N. Ivermectin squashed the Covid Plandemic in India.
Crimes against humanity charges coming at Zero, Biden, Faukki, Pfizer, Moderns, AMA, FDC, CDC, WHO, Big US Pharmacies, Reporters and DOCTORS.

He was so satisfying to place on ignore, I did it, undid it, and redid it just for fun. He got so lazy he can only post image links to things that are content filtered that won't even show up on my computer. It would have been nice if he would have at least tried to address things I showed him and the other Q-tards. Funny, they didn't even want to try to comment on peer-reviewed scientific journals with meta-analysis.

You and Jeff O done sucking each other off yet?

Wanting a turn are ya?

Take the filters off your computer, you can't debate the unknown! Just saying.

I don't have the ability to remove content filters. This is an issued computer. There really hasn't been any debate here. Somebody says something, I refute it with scientific evidence. I get called a communist and a liar, then somebody posts Q-tard stuff.

Yeah, by who, FBY.

Its over. You lost. You a dimocommie loser. I don't care if you're CYA or what. Youre a lying loser and a subversive supporting the CCP agents in our govt and WH.

ESAD
Your mouth is slick as that of a $2 whore.

My, the trolls are becoming more colorful every day. See what happens when you let the first one move into the neighborhood? The novelty soon wears off.

Yeah, doesn't work from yours either.

That alone should have made anyone run for the hills and tell them to shove that shot where the sun dont shine

Wah wah wah.

You are the mouthpiece for a faction that wants the literal destruction of America and the death of all who oppose you. But you know what? I’m winning. Every day that goes by, the fever-dream that animated you nutjobs fades a little, to be replaced by the STRENGTH derived from observable reality, truth, and common decency that animates the Center.

You can feel it fading. Your obvious desperation grows. Your cute little angel starts to drift away to greener pastures.

Loser.

Eat buckshot Jeffy.

I sure missed you Jeff. Keep typing, it's always entertaining.

Censorship is a big part of the problem. People still don't realize the vaccines are still under EUA approval.

I literally replied to YOU specifically when you said that last time and provided a link from the FDA that stated that isn't true with all the vaccines.

It won't be. The bullshit excuses the FDA had for taking 75 years didn't fly in court.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/healt...-to-release-covid-19-vaccine-data-pronto