Well.... in your defense..... he is a fixture here. I noticed his absence and later saw someone refer to "a former Fl. high school teacher" and sort of wondered about that.
Geez dude, tuck away your man crush. I know he was pretty upset about you sending him pictures of youself naked. Might have scared him off.
I've never adopted your tactics, or propensities. Just curious were you born an assshole or do you practice daily? You should just change your username to richardnoggin and get it over with.
Geez dude, tuck away your man crush. I know he was pretty upset about you sending him pictures of youself naked. Might have scared him off.
I've never adopted your tactics, or propensities. Just curious were you born an assshole or do you practice daily? You should just change your username to richardnoggin and get it over with.
There are poster I disagree with, and some I just don't like. I don't wish ill for anyone here that I can think of. Of course the ones I'd like to loosen a few teeth from is not ill will.
The day I become politically correct is the day that I need to be committed. TRH is a jackass and if he never post on here again I'll be as happy as an 5 foot Goeduck(or what ever you call that big schlonged clam).
Geez dude, tuck away your man crush. I know he was pretty upset about you sending him pictures of youself naked. Might have scared him off.
I've never adopted your tactics, or propensities. Just curious were you born an assshole or do you practice daily? You should just change your username to richardnoggin and get it over with.
You can't even man up to what an azzzhole you've been; kind of like you're going to explain grappling to me. Phony to the bone.
Geez dude, tuck away your man crush. I know he was pretty upset about you sending him pictures of youself naked. Might have scared him off.
I've never adopted your tactics, or propensities. Just curious were you born an assshole or do you practice daily? You should just change your username to richardnoggin and get it over with.
You can't even man up to what an azzzhole you've been; kind of like you're going to explain grappling to me. Phony to the bone.
I knew it ...you are queer as a $3 bill ...now you want to grapple and for the record you started with being an assshole douchebag...don't try to inflect that on me dirtball.
You mean you really don't know what an azzhole you are? Even more clueless that I gave you credit for. You should stop by a Grapplers Quest or Pan Am games and run your mouth, but I'm sure you wouldn't have the balls in person.
Your puzzy must really hurt....go buy some Monistat and some Midol...I'm only an assshole to people that deserve it. Get over it and live with it. Go back to spooning with the dove-eye....
TRH last on line about 23 minuets ago. Glad he is OK. Seems like a decent guy. Agree with him or not, it doesn't matter. He is The Real Hawkeye.
Ernie
He is The Faux Hawkeye. And he is still out in his backyard trying to figure out why his arrows insist on flying over his target and disappearing into the treetops.
CRYSTAL RIVER � A 2-year-old child reportedly attacked by family dogs was found dead by police Saturday afternoon in the back yard of his family�s Crystal River home.
Christopher Louis Camejo, father of deceased two-year-old Christopher Camejo, was arrested Saturday by Citrus County Sheriff's Deputies on a charge of violating an injunction for a protection from domestic violence issued by the deceased's mother, Claudia Scarbrough.
Christopher Louis Camejo, father of deceased two-year-old Christopher Camejo, was arrested Saturday by Citrus County Sheriff's Deputies on a charge of violating an injunction for a protection from domestic violence issued by the deceased's mother, Claudia Scarbrough.
Sheriff�s deputies, Fire Rescue and Nature Coast EMS received a call at 4:20 p.m. Saturday reporting a dog attack on a child at 8352 W. Oak St. in Crystal River, according to a Citrus County Sheriff�s Office (CCSO) news release.
On their arrival, authorities discovered the body of 2-year-old Christopher Camejo � with injuries consistent of a dog attack � along with four Rottweilers and another smaller dog in the back yard of the residence, according to CCSO.
Investigators later learned that several people were inside the home, but no one was outside during the time of the attack.
The victim�s parents, 29-year-old Christopher Louis Camejo and Claudia Scarbrough, 31, were found inside the house along with some friends and two other children, ages 1 and 5, according to CCSO.
Animal control officers arrived and removed the four Rottweilers and another dog. A Chihuahua and several puppies were left at the home.
Camejo, 29, was later found and charged with violating an injunction for protection from domestic violence served by Scarbrough in May 2014, in Hernando County.
According to the arrest report, Camejo violated the terms of the injunction by having contact with Scarbrough and the protected children.
Camejo told authorities he was aware of the injunction, but believed Scarbrough had removed the protection order.
He was arrested for violating the injunction and transported to the Citrus County Detention Facility. No bond was set, according to his arrest report.
The Department of Children and Families (DCF), was also notified and have sheltered the two additional children.
Neighbors described the dogs as vicious and reported seeing them out of their owner�s yard multiple times in the past, according to statements to the Chronicle.
Authorities cannot yet confirm if the involved dogs had previous reports of aggression filed against them.
More details will be released as the investigation continues, but no additional charges have yet been filed against the two parents, according to CCSO.
�This is a horrific situation,� Lt. Kevin Purinton said in Sunday�s news release. �It�s unimaginable what that poor baby went through and we�re going to do everything we can to determine exactly what happened and if any charges should be brought forth.�
Police are asking anyone with any information related to this incident to call CCSO at 352-726-1121. To remain anonymous, call Citrus County Crime Stoppers at 888-269-8477.
TRH is just fine and I doubt he is lurking. I think he is just tired of all the low information voters on here.
TRH is a douche waffle.
Not at all my friend. I have taken the time to get to know him. If a bunch of us were sitting around a real campfire in some heavy forested mountains you would like him.
I for one hope he is OK and starts posting again.
There are several here who deserve the treatment THR get here but he isn't one of them.
TRH is just fine and I doubt he is lurking. I think he is just tired of all the low information voters on here.
TRH is a douche waffle.
Not at all my friend. I have taken the time to get to know him. If a bunch of us were sitting around a real campfire in some heavy forested mountains you would like him.
I for one hope he is OK and starts posting again.
There are several here who deserve the treatment THR get here but he isn't one of them.
Not all of us were bless by being born you. Some of us had it different. You had a dad. I had a father who had no interest in me and proceeded to ignore me. THR had pretty much the same. How many hours have you talked to him and learned about him?
The guy is a willfully ignorant jackass whose delusions cross over to the offensive. There are lots of people here I disagree with, but I'd still be pleased to share a camp with 99% of them. TRH isn't one.
Anyway, I hope you are enjoying your holiday season and have a great Christmas!
Not at all my friend. I have taken the time to get to know him. If a bunch of us were sitting around a real campfire in some heavy forested mountains you would like him.
I for one hope he is OK and starts posting again.
There are several here who deserve the treatment THR get here but he isn't one of them.
I ain't buying the Kumbaya crap. I hate bigoted liars with a passion.
Originally Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye #9053788 - 07/26/14 06:26 PM I believe I've been clear on my position vis-a-vis Israel. It's a terrorist/apartheid state, an abomination to the Lord, and has been a curse to the world since its inception (which should have been no surprise to anyone who's read the New Testament). It should never have been permitted to be founded, and now that it's founded, it should disappear as a political entity, but it won't. It will continue to be a curse to the world till the Lord comes to set all things aright.
had more than a few private conversations with the guy....im firmly in the nuttier than squirrel chit catagory...on top of him being an idiot....all his discussions on here follow the same pattern:
he picks an out there conspiracy theory he says hey watch this video/read this site argues only his obscure sources have merit because all others are "in on it" and finally starts arguing the definition of words when backed into a corner saying you have no clue what he is actually talking about
they follow the same pattern every time......he is a gulable idiot that swallows any offbeat theory hook line and sinker cause he feels the secret knowledge makes him smarter than all the rest....he isnt that damn hard to figure out...
TRH is not perfect. None of us are. What he is is a decent person who is slow to anger, always polite and doesn't have a mean or spiteful bone in his body. His positions on the majority of political issues are those of 90% of the regular posters on the 'fire. I don't think any of these things can be disputed rationally or logically. Yet he is hated more than some known trolls and commies. It is a source of amazement that boggles the mind.
Seems like he posted on the Kifaru forums once that he's about 5'07" or something. Which would explain the loud mouth, braggadociousness and career path.
TRH is not perfect. None of us are. What he is is a decent person who is slow to anger, always polite and doesn't have a mean or spiteful bone in his body. His positions on the majority of political issues are those of 90% of the regular posters on the 'fire. I don't think any of these things can be disputed rationally or logically. Yet he is hated more than some known trolls and commies. It is a source of amazement that boggles the mind.
thats cause you have had your nose firmly up his arse, makes it hard to see who a person is....he is an arsehole who constantly tries to prove he is superior to everyone else and fails miserably, he just isnt overt about the arsehole part most of the time....
TRH is not perfect. None of us are. What he is is a decent person who is slow to anger, always polite and doesn't have a mean or spiteful bone in his body. His positions on the majority of political issues are those of 90% of the regular posters on the 'fire. I don't think any of these things can be disputed rationally or logically. Yet he is hated more than some known trolls and commies. It is a source of amazement that boggles the mind.
But there's a portion of his time that he spends being unnaturally dogmatic about positions that are completely irrational. And it's hard to blame people for focusing on that irrational portion, regardless of how small the portion is.
If my neighbor only runs down the street naked and covered in chocolate syrup once a year, I don't call him my "normal neighbor who I mostly agree with". I just call him crazy.
had more than a few private conversations with the guy....im firmly in the nuttier than squirrel chit catagory...on top of him being an idiot....all his discussions on here follow the same pattern:
he picks an out there conspiracy theory he says hey watch this video/read this site argues only his obscure sources have merit because all others are "in on it" and finally starts arguing the definition of words when backed into a corner saying you have no clue what he is actually talking about
they follow the same pattern every time......he is a gulable idiot that swallows any offbeat theory hook line and sinker cause he feels the secret knowledge makes him smarter than all the rest....he isnt that damn hard to figure out...
Spot on.... the part that bothers me is the State of Florida sees fit to employ him as a social studies teacher
had more than a few private conversations with the guy....im firmly in the nuttier than squirrel chit catagory...on top of him being an idiot.......he isnt that damn hard to figure out...
Spot on.... the part that bothers me is the State of Florida sees fit to employ him as a social studies teacher
I don't think you need to be bothered by that...
No more than being worried about bridge trolls, tree sprites, and other myths.
the part that bothers me is the State of Florida sees fit to employ him as a social studies teacher
I think that he's not been exactly honest about being employed as a teacher. From what I understand anyway. I think that he's not been honest about a few things. This is just what I've heard through the grapevine and my opinion. Lots of facts there though.
Seems like he posted on the Kifaru forums once that he's about 5'07" or something. Which would explain the loud mouth, braggadociousness and career path.
You're an inch off, and otherwise completely FOS, as is often the case. The SFQC tends to graduate lean six-footers.
TRH is not perfect. None of us are. What he is is a decent person who is slow to anger, always polite and doesn't have a mean or spiteful bone in his body. His positions on the majority of political issues are those of 90% of the regular posters on the 'fire. I don't think any of these things can be disputed rationally or logically. Yet he is hated more than some known trolls and commies. It is a source of amazement that boggles the mind.
TRH is wrong about Israel, though not COMPLETELY wrong, as they do have a collectivist predilection. He's wrong about evolution. He knows more about eating healthy than most MD's. I think that is why many here can't stand him, he's an affront to the citizens of lard-azz-nation.
I've marveled at how civil he remains here, he's WAY better at it than me.
RINO's like Steveno and Issac loathe him because they can't BS him.
So why are you hiding behind a new name? Is because you are aware that you have agitated so many folks that a new name would free you from your old persona? Or have you been banned? Did Rick finally get sick of you like many here apparently have because you are hiding something? I'll tell you what. Don't just TAKE A KNEE... Take your lousy ass someplace else.
Don't just TAKE A KNEE... Take your lousy ass someplace else.
I'll make it a POINT to hang around just for you schidtbird.
Why would you stay here just to torment and agitate others that are here for other,honest reasons? You know that this wouldn't be tolerated in the real world,yet you seem to relish the chance to act like a fool. I'll never understand why someone would brag about being a troll.
I think that is why many here can't stand him, he's an affront to the citizens of lard-azz-nation.
What about those of us who are un-lard-assy enough that you won't even join them for a looooong run? Or swim.
Same chit, different pile......
And, FWIW, I was wishing TRH was around Saturday at work when I was sending a guy to the cath lab. He could probably have read that EKG faster, and more better than I, just ask him.
Don't just TAKE A KNEE... Take your lousy ass someplace else.
I'll make it a POINT to hang around just for you schidtbird.
Why would you stay here just to torment and agitate others that are here for other,honest reasons? You know that this wouldn't be tolerated in the real world,yet you seem to relish the chance to act like a fool. I'll never understand why someone would brag about being a troll.
Oh, so I'm here for "dishonest" reasons? I ain't a whole lot different in the "real world" than I am here. As for being a "troll", I don't think I'll ever accumulate 20K posts. GFY
Oh, so I'm here for "dishonest" reasons? I ain't a whole lot different in the "real world" than I am here. As for being a "troll", I don't think I'll ever accumulate 20K posts. GFY
In the real world,if you told me to GFY I'd knock your teeth down your throat then I'd fix your nose. Nobody would talk to me like you think you would. I won't tolerate it and there are a lot of fine folks on here that would react the same way. I think it's plain to see that you are as welcome here as a case of Chlamydia so why don't you move along. As for accumulating 20k+ posts,I've not been banned and I've been here since 2003. Unlike you.
Oh, so I'm here for "dishonest" reasons? I ain't a whole lot different in the "real world" than I am here. As for being a "troll", I don't think I'll ever accumulate 20K posts. GFY
In the real world,if you told me to GFY I'd knock your teeth down your throat then I'd fix your nose. Nobody would talk to me like you think you would. I won't tolerate it and there are a lot of fine folks on here that would react the same way. I think it's plain to see that you are as welcome here as a case of Chlamydia so why don't you move along. As for accumulating 20k+ posts,I've not been banned and I've been here since 2003. Unlike you.
But it's okay for you to insinuate that TRH might not be a teacher or have other issues of honesty? You probably wouldn't do that in the real world to his face either.
But, whatever, it really doesn't matter to me. This IS a message board and people are on here for all kinds of reasons. Seems stupid for some to complain about others just because they have different opinions or even different reasons for expressing those opinions.
Oh, so I'm here for "dishonest" reasons? I ain't a whole lot different in the "real world" than I am here. As for being a "troll", I don't think I'll ever accumulate 20K posts. GFY
In the real world,if you told me to GFY I'd knock your teeth down your throat then I'd fix your nose. Nobody would talk to me like you think you would. I won't tolerate it and there are a lot of fine folks on here that would react the same way. I think it's plain to see that you are as welcome here as a case of Chlamydia so why don't you move along. As for accumulating 20k+ posts,I've not been banned and I've been here since 2003. Unlike you.
But it's okay for you to insinuate that TRH might not be a teacher or have other issues of honesty? You probably wouldn't do that in the real world to his face either.
But, whatever, it really doesn't matter to me. This IS a message board and people are on here for all kinds of reasons. Seems stupid for some to complain about others just because they have different opinions or even different reasons for expressing those opinions.
CRYSTAL RIVER � A 2-year-old child reportedly attacked by family dogs was found dead by police Saturday afternoon in the back yard of his family�s Crystal River home.
Christopher Louis Camejo, father of deceased two-year-old Christopher Camejo, was arrested Saturday by Citrus County Sheriff's Deputies on a charge of violating an injunction for a protection from domestic violence issued by the deceased's mother, Claudia Scarbrough.
Christopher Louis Camejo, father of deceased two-year-old Christopher Camejo, was arrested Saturday by Citrus County Sheriff's Deputies on a charge of violating an injunction for a protection from domestic violence issued by the deceased's mother, Claudia Scarbrough.
Sheriff�s deputies, Fire Rescue and Nature Coast EMS received a call at 4:20 p.m. Saturday reporting a dog attack on a child at 8352 W. Oak St. in Crystal River, according to a Citrus County Sheriff�s Office (CCSO) news release.
On their arrival, authorities discovered the body of 2-year-old Christopher Camejo � with injuries consistent of a dog attack � along with four Rottweilers and another smaller dog in the back yard of the residence, according to CCSO.
Investigators later learned that several people were inside the home, but no one was outside during the time of the attack.
The victim�s parents, 29-year-old Christopher Louis Camejo and Claudia Scarbrough, 31, were found inside the house along with some friends and two other children, ages 1 and 5, according to CCSO.
Animal control officers arrived and removed the four Rottweilers and another dog. A Chihuahua and several puppies were left at the home.
Camejo, 29, was later found and charged with violating an injunction for protection from domestic violence served by Scarbrough in May 2014, in Hernando County.
According to the arrest report, Camejo violated the terms of the injunction by having contact with Scarbrough and the protected children.
Camejo told authorities he was aware of the injunction, but believed Scarbrough had removed the protection order.
He was arrested for violating the injunction and transported to the Citrus County Detention Facility. No bond was set, according to his arrest report.
The Department of Children and Families (DCF), was also notified and have sheltered the two additional children.
Neighbors described the dogs as vicious and reported seeing them out of their owner�s yard multiple times in the past, according to statements to the Chronicle.
Authorities cannot yet confirm if the involved dogs had previous reports of aggression filed against them.
More details will be released as the investigation continues, but no additional charges have yet been filed against the two parents, according to CCSO.
�This is a horrific situation,� Lt. Kevin Purinton said in Sunday�s news release. �It�s unimaginable what that poor baby went through and we�re going to do everything we can to determine exactly what happened and if any charges should be brought forth.�
Police are asking anyone with any information related to this incident to call CCSO at 352-726-1121. To remain anonymous, call Citrus County Crime Stoppers at 888-269-8477.
had more than a few private conversations with the guy....im firmly in the nuttier than squirrel chit catagory...on top of him being an idiot....all his discussions on here follow the same pattern:
he picks an out there conspiracy theory he says hey watch this video/read this site argues only his obscure sources have merit because all others are "in on it" and finally starts arguing the definition of words when backed into a corner saying you have no clue what he is actually talking about
they follow the same pattern every time......he is a gulable idiot that swallows any offbeat theory hook line and sinker cause he feels the secret knowledge makes him smarter than all the rest....he isnt that damn hard to figure out...
Oh, so I'm here for "dishonest" reasons? I ain't a whole lot different in the "real world" than I am here. As for being a "troll", I don't think I'll ever accumulate 20K posts. GFY
In the real world,if you told me to GFY I'd knock your teeth down your throat then I'd fix your nose. Nobody would talk to me like you think you would. I won't tolerate it and there are a lot of fine folks on here that would react the same way. I think it's plain to see that you are as welcome here as a case of Chlamydia so why don't you move along. As for accumulating 20k+ posts,I've not been banned and I've been here since 2003. Unlike you.
But it's okay for you to insinuate that TRH might not be a teacher or have other issues of honesty? You probably wouldn't do that in the real world to his face either.
But, whatever, it really doesn't matter to me. This IS a message board and people are on here for all kinds of reasons. Seems stupid for some to complain about others just because they have different opinions or even different reasons for expressing those opinions.
FWIW, he's not a teacher.
Carry on.
Okay, I've just never seen anyone get piled on so much. Most of the people don't even bother refuting him or arguing with him, they just go straight to personal insults.
I assume that about 65% of the stuff I read on here from people is BS and gilding the lily if not outright lies.
It reminds me of the broiler houses we had when I was a kid. If one of the baby chicks was a little different, the others would all gang up on him and peck him literally to death.
But it's okay for you to insinuate that TRH might not be a teacher or have other issues of honesty? You probably wouldn't do that in the real world to his face either.
But, whatever, it really doesn't matter to me. This IS a message board and people are on here for all kinds of reasons. Seems stupid for some to complain about others just because they have different opinions or even different reasons for expressing those opinions.
I've been as truthful as I can be JoeBob. I think it's fair to say that you have taken me to task about things that I've posted in the last week and that's fine. Is it normal for you to finish a sentence with GFY JoeBob? I think you and disagree about something important and that's you think I'm complaining. Who am I complaining to? I'm not. I'm telling it like it is. 4321/TAK is here to disrupt and act a fool. Again...You wouldn't tolerate someone telling you to GFY would you? I wouldn't think that you would. Just like I won't.
But it's okay for you to insinuate that TRH might not be a teacher or have other issues of honesty? You probably wouldn't do that in the real world to his face either.
But, whatever, it really doesn't matter to me. This IS a message board and people are on here for all kinds of reasons. Seems stupid for some to complain about others just because they have different opinions or even different reasons for expressing those opinions.
I've been as truthful as I can be JoeBob. I think it's fair to say that you have taken me to task about things that I've posted in the last week and that's fine. Is it normal for you to finish a sentence with GFY JoeBob? I think you and disagree about something important and that's you think I'm complaining. Who am I complaining to? I'm not. I'm telling it like it is. 4321/TAK is here to disrupt and act a fool. Again...You wouldn't tolerate someone telling you to GFY would you? I wouldn't think that you would. Just like I won't.
I don't know, depends on the context. Did they say it with love in their hearts?
Okay, I've just never seen anyone get piled on so much. Most of the people don't even bother refuting him or arguing with him, they just go straight to personal insults.
I assume that about 65% of the stuff I read on here from people is BS and gilding the lily if not outright lies.
It reminds me of the broiler houses we had when I was a kid. If one of the baby chicks was a little different, the others would all gang up on him and peck him literally to death.
If you want to see what he's about, look up the PAC/EKG thread.
I've been an ICU nurse for almost 20 years, and people on here have seen me at the large Minneapolis hospital I work at.
When it all came down to it, he just said I was too stupid to understand the subject matter we were discussing while ignoring pointed questions to clarify his original statements.
Now, I am not a subject matter expert on most of the philosophical/religious stuff he opines on, and I stay the hell out of those discussions, but, as far as I am concerned, after seeing him try to falsely represent a vast amount of knowledge about a subject I do have knowledge of, and watching him simply repeat factually incorrect stuff over and over and over, I would not trust ANYTHING the guy says about anything until verified by other sources.
TRH is a good enough guy. It's just that he doesn't subscribe to the status quo and feels compelled to debate the situation with knotheads to an excessive degree.
I used to engage in debates with knotheads,...but the way I see it,..most on this forum ain't spring chickens.
If they're still knotheads at this point, it's ordained that they're destined to be for all eternity.
Now, I am not a subject matter expert on most of the philosophical/religious stuff he opines on, and I stay the hell out of those discussions, but, as far as I am concerned, after seeing him try to falsely represent a vast amount of knowledge about a subject I do have knowledge of, and watching him simply repeat factually incorrect stuff over and over and over, I would not trust ANYTHING the guy says about anything until verified by other sources.
That's pretty much how I see TRH. He's tripped up pretty badly a number of times that I know him to have tripped up, and I've watched him try to wiggle out of it when he's been called on it.
Basically, though, ol' Chris is pretty benign. I will argue with him on some issues where he is propagating nonsense that I feel can do real harm if not contested; and I am not above poking fun at him for it from time to time, but I don't have the hate on him that some others do. I hope he's truly OK and not in any real trouble in the real world.
TRH is a good enough guy. It's just that he doesn't subscribe to the status quo and feels compelled to debate the situation with knotheads to an excessive degree.
I used to engage in debates with knotheads,...but the way I see it,..most on this forum ain't spring chickens.
If they're still knotheads at this point, it's ordained that they're destined to be for all eternity.
That is about as deep an insight in the human psyche as I have ever read on here. Not at all surprised it comes from Bristoe.
TRH is a good enough guy. It's just that he doesn't subscribe to the status quo and feels compelled to debate the situation with knotheads to an excessive degree.
I used to engage in debates with knotheads,...but the way I see it,..most on this forum ain't spring chickens.
If they're still knotheads at this point, it's ordained that they're destined to be for all eternity.
DITTOS. You are a better man than me though as I still argue with knotheads.
New Year's resolution number 4, Dude stop arguing with the knotheads.
TRH is a good enough guy. It's just that he doesn't subscribe to the status quo and feels compelled to debate the situation with knotheads to an excessive degree.
I used to engage in debates with knotheads,...but the way I see it,..most on this forum ain't spring chickens.
If they're still knotheads at this point, it's ordained that they're destined to be for all eternity.
Sometimes it is hilarious to watch people doing mental gymnastics and backflips to avoid having to EVEN CONSIDER information from a different perspective.
DITTOS. You are a better man than me though as I still argue with knotheads.
New Year's resolution number 4, Dude stop arguing with the knotheads.
I assume that about 65% of the stuff I read on here from people is BS and gilding the lily if not outright lies.
It reminds me of the broiler houses we had when I was a kid. If one of the baby chicks was a little different, the others would all gang up on him and peck him literally to death.
That analogizes this place about as well as it can be done. This place is a microcosm of the "real" world, as such, it is mostly azzwipes, with a smattering of genuine human beings.
Would you think he was a good enough guy if he wasn't chastening jews at every opportunity?
I know it's difficult for you to imagine, but generally speaking, most of us gentiles don't sit around thinking about jews very much.
So all of his other whacked-out craziness; the vaccines, fluoride, CIA false-flag operations in the United States - really, the widest range of conspiracy theories we've every seen from an individual member of this forum - this is part of what makes him a good enough guy for you?
Would you think he was a good enough guy if he wasn't chastening jews at every opportunity?
I know it's difficult for you to imagine, but generally speaking, most of us gentiles don't sit around thinking about jews very much.
So all of his other whacked-out craziness; the vaccines, fluoride, CIA false-flag operations in the United States - really, the widest range of conspiracy theories we've every seen from an individual member of this forum - this is part of what makes him a good enough guy for you?
Just ask, "Is he good for Israel?!!", and be done with it.
TRH is a good enough guy. It's just that he doesn't subscribe to the status quo and feels compelled to debate the situation with knotheads to an excessive degree.
I used to engage in debates with knotheads,...but the way I see it,..most on this forum ain't spring chickens.
If they're still knotheads at this point, it's ordained that they're destined to be for all eternity.
DITTOS. You are a better man than me though as I still argue with knotheads.
New Year's resolution number 4, Dude stop arguing with the knotheads.
Can you tell the knotheads from the guy in the mirror?
Like I said, 85% of the guys on this board are sitting in their house trailers drawing disability and 'bating all day. At least he is somewhat interesting.
TRH is great. Interesting, knowledgable and never an asswhole.
Really? Never is a big word. I sure wouldn't use it to describe me RE that word, but I also wouldn't use it for TRH either.
As for knowledgeable, well, not so much in regards to electrophysiology......not that that stopped him from talking about it.
I remember that thread. You two got hung up on some benign terminology and were talking past each other. No I don't think TRH can read an EKG, but you guys weren't that far apart on the basic premise or issue at hand. No disrespect intended goalie.
TRH is great. Interesting, knowledgable and never an asswhole.
Really? Never is a big word. I sure wouldn't use it to describe me RE that word, but I also wouldn't use it for TRH either.
As for knowledgeable, well, not so much in regards to electrophysiology......not that that stopped him from talking about it.
TRH never made any claims regarding EKG's, he merely claimed the inflammation could cause aberrent pathways, and he was right. You basically tried to use you knowledge of the subject to buffalo and cower him but there were enough folks, like me, who could see you were FOS.
Like I said, 85% of the guys on this board are sitting in their house trailers drawing disability and 'bating all day. At least he is somewhat interesting.
You assume he ain't doing likewise in Mom & Dad's house?
The people who are actually FOS are frauds such as yourself; completely lacking in self esteem and possessing zero credibility who, in an attempt to get some attention, try to anonymously and pitifully hang in there by creating multiple personalities.
By the way Cybil, are any of your 7-9 personalities heterosexual?
In any event, keep striving for mediocrity, pop tart.
Like I said, 85% of the guys on this board are sitting in their house trailers drawing disability and 'bating all day. At least he is somewhat interesting.
You assume he ain't doing likewise in Mom & Dad's house?
Like I said, 85% of the guys on this board are sitting in their house trailers drawing disability and 'bating all day. At least he is somewhat interesting.
You assume he ain't doing likewise in Mom & Dad's house?
Like I said, at least he is interesting.
Never said he wasn't. Imaginations are fun that way.
The people who are actually FOS are frauds such as yourself; completely lacking in self esteem and possessing zero credibility who, in an attempt to get some attention, try to anonymously and pitifully hang in there by creating multiple personalities.
By the way Cybil, are any of your 7-9 personalities heterosexual?
In any event, keep striving for mediocrity, pop tart.
That Atkin's Diet got your usually miserable lard-azz even more so?
I assume that about 65% of the stuff I read on here from people is BS and gilding the lily if not outright lies.
It reminds me of the broiler houses we had when I was a kid. If one of the baby chicks was a little different, the others would all gang up on him and peck him literally to death.
That analogizes this place about as well as it can be done. This place is a microcosm of the "real" world, as such, it is mostly azzwipes, with a smattering of genuine human beings.
That's a hoot coming from an individual kicked off and hiding behind two other screen names... LMAO.
The people who are actually FOS are frauds such as yourself; completely lacking in self esteem and possessing zero credibility who, in an attempt to get some attention, try to anonymously and pitifully hang in there by creating multiple personalities.
By the way Cybil, are any of your 7-9 personalities heterosexual?
In any event, keep striving for mediocrity, pop tart.
TRH is a good enough guy. It's just that he doesn't subscribe to the status quo and feels compelled to debate the situation with knotheads to an excessive degree.
I used to engage in debates with knotheads,...but the way I see it,..most on this forum ain't spring chickens.
If they're still knotheads at this point, it's ordained that they're destined to be for all eternity.
Well, and it don't hurt that he likes Ron Paul either.
I remember that thread. You two got hung up on some benign terminology and were talking past each other. No I don't think TRH can read an EKG, but you guys weren't that far apart on the basic premise or issue at hand. No disrespect intended goalie.
Actually, we were not in the same galaxy.
And that was my point.
Granted, I could have been the bigger man and just laughed him off like the other health-care people who actually have a clue, but he was being a dick and making fun of my job, so I had my fun with him.
But don't kid yourself and think that we were anywhere near the same page. His initial comment was so incredibly stupid that the mental gymnastics he had to try to use to back it up could have gotten him into the circus.
TRH is great. Interesting, knowledgable and never an asswhole.
Really? Never is a big word. I sure wouldn't use it to describe me RE that word, but I also wouldn't use it for TRH either.
As for knowledgeable, well, not so much in regards to electrophysiology......not that that stopped him from talking about it.
TRH never made any claims regarding EKG's, he merely claimed the inflammation could cause aberrent pathways, and he was right. You basically tried to use you knowledge of the subject to buffalo and cower him but there were enough folks, like me, who could see you were FOS.
Inflammation eh?
You are so fugging clueless it's amazing. But I kinda expect that from a spec-ops guy (allegedly) who doesn't know how to use a freaking camera.
Nobody was talking about inflammation. He said people who have PAC's have aberrant conduction pathways. He is 100% false, and you should get off his sack poser.
Edit: and when asked directly to describe the normal conduction system (pathway) through the heart, he declined. He didn't want to give out any more rope than he already had, and google wasn't helping him anymore.....
Nobody was talking about inflammation. He said people who have PAC's have aberrant conduction pathways. He is 100% false, and you should get off his sack poser.
Edit: and when asked directly to describe the normal conduction system (pathway) through the heart, he declined. He didn't want to give out any more rope than he already had, and google wasn't helping him anymore.....
I guess I should let the cat out of the bag before anyone else does. TRH took a flight to Denmark and is having surgery. He's been in therapy for a couple of years and this decision hasn't been made in haste. I'm not sure about the particulars of the surgery but I do know that he will still be called Chris.Or Christina to those that he meets and are new in his life. This is all I know.
I guess I should let the cat out of the bag before anyone else does. TRH took a flight to Denmark and is having surgery. He's been in therapy for a couple of years and this decision hasn't been made in haste. I'm not sure about the particulars of the surgery but I do know that he will still be called Chris.Or Christina to those that he meets and are new in his life. This is all I know.
I guess I should let the cat out of the bag before anyone else does. TRH took a flight to Denmark and is having surgery. He's been in therapy for a couple of years and this decision hasn't been made in haste. I'm not sure about the particulars of the surgery but I do know that he will still be called Chris.Or Christina to those that he meets and are new in his life. This is all I know.
You were a fat boy back "in the day" or are one now. You fascination is based upon self-loathing.
You're not clever and you're not convincing.
Freud you ain't.... I'm 5'8"/169#. Right now I wearing one of the many pairs of woodland BDU pants I had when I retired, size SMALL. I have porked out though, I can't carry a G19 IWB in them anymore. What a lardazz.
That's one of the problems that I have with these loud mouthed jerks like 4321/TAK. they hide behind their computer screens and claim to be 6ft 180lbs and runs 6 minutes miles for an hour every morning. I'm a real person that is known by probably fifty members at least and don't have to describe myself.
I ran 3.5miles this morning. I'm smart enough to know that is enough for a 55yo. How much are you deadlifting?
I posted a pic of me at the finish line of an ironman with my finish time clear as day.
I posted pics of me in the middle east.
You talk 10 times as much as me. Post one or two of yourself and we can move on to my crossfit numbers, ok?
Fraud
I admire you guys [and gals] who stay stuck to a fitness course, Wifey averages just under a 6 minute mile during her 26 mi marathons, she's a machine at 52 years old.
That's one of the problems that I have with these loud mouthed jerks like 4321/TAK. they hide behind their computer screens and claim to be 6ft 180lbs and runs 6 minutes miles for an hour every morning. I'm a real person that is known by probably fifty members at least and don't have to describe myself.
This 4321 turd needs to be flushed.
Yeah, I kinda figured. "He" doesn't act like any spec-op guys I've met.
He called me his usual "fatass" then backed off ASAP when pics were posted.
I ran 3.5miles this morning. I'm smart enough to know that is enough for a 55yo. How much are you deadlifting?
I posted a pic of me at the finish line of an ironman with my finish time clear as day.
I posted pics of me in the middle east.
You talk 10 times as much as me. Post one or two of yourself and we can move on to my crossfit numbers, ok?
Fraud
I admire you guys [and gals] who stay stuck to a fitness course, Wifey averages just under a 6 minute mile during her 26 mi marathons, she's a machine at 52 years old.
Tanks don't move that quickly and you've enough scars additionally to slow you down. I think you have reasons for not being "fast".
That also means smaller dudes have a chance at getting out of reach before you grasp them, and perhaps out of range.
I ran 3.5miles this morning. I'm smart enough to know that is enough for a 55yo. How much are you deadlifting?
I posted a pic of me at the finish line of an ironman with my finish time clear as day.
I posted pics of me in the middle east.
You talk 10 times as much as me. Post one or two of yourself and we can move on to my crossfit numbers, ok?
Fraud
I admire you guys [and gals] who stay stuck to a fitness course, Wifey averages just under a 6 minute mile during her 26 mi marathons, she's a machine at 52 years old.
Tanks don't move that quickly and you've enough scars additionally to slow you down. I think you have reasons for not being "fast".
That also means smaller dudes have a chance at getting out of reach before you grasp them, and perhaps out of range.
LOL, She never reads the 'fire, and I could lie like hell with impunity, But I can't hang with dat chicken Bro.
That's one of the problems that I have with these loud mouthed jerks like 4321/TAK. they hide behind their computer screens and claim to be 6ft 180lbs and runs 6 minutes miles for an hour every morning. I'm a real person that is known by probably fifty members at least and don't have to describe myself.
This 4321 turd needs to be flushed.
Yeah, I kinda figured. "He" doesn't act like any spec-op guys I've met.
He called me his usual "fatass" then backed off ASAP when pics were posted.
Fraud.
I offered a trail marathon here during the "call out" stage....
Neutral territory in June.....Yellowstone Half and I'll buy the beer after. It's a family outing, so any are welcome!
Many would say the same about Crossfit.....I disagree but there's plenty to back up the opinion.
I know too many "old" distance runners to worry too much about it. It's like my grandpa always said "if I died when I should have, none of this would matter.". He hunted into his 90s....I'm from good stock (for a Yankee).
Marathon running is excellent preparation..... for a nursing home.
None of those spec-ops guys value endurance....
Fraud
"Endurance" is staying up for 24hr, then un-azzing a C-130 with an 80lb ruck and carrying it 20+ miles. Runners fold like a cheap chair. Running excessively saps testosterone and causes sarcopenia. Look it up.
I was happy to go sub-18 minutes fora marine pft, and I usually puked after.
Sub 9 min/miles for a marathon almost killed me.
You're telling me, she completed the 'goofy run' at Disney World Orlando about a year ago, 10K on Friday, 13 mi half marathon on Saturday, and a full 26 mi on Sunday, damn.......
Thankfully my job entails transportation and security secretary, those are cake.
Can she deadlift her bodyweight? I ain't sayin' that to be a dick, because inability to extend the hip (under load) is what puts little-old ladies without much muscle, in wheelchairs and nursing homes. That is a fact. TOO MUCH running, especially if done with poor form (heel-striking) will destroy the hip joint. Food for thought.
Can she deadlift her bodyweight? I ain't sayin' that to be a dick, because inability to extend the hip (under load) is what puts little-old ladies without much muscle, in wheelchairs and nursing homes. That is a fact. TOO MUCH running, especially if done with poor form (heel-striking) will destroy the hip joint. Food for thought.
Can she deadlift her bodyweight? I ain't sayin' that to be a dick, because inability to extend the hip (under load) is what puts little-old ladies without much muscle, in wheelchairs and nursing homes. That is a fact. TOO MUCH running, especially if done with poor form (heel-striking) will destroy the hip joint. Food for thought.
You are such a phony assshole. You couldn't do 1/1oth the stuff you claim if you had to with a gun to your head.
Riddle me this dipchit...other than being a phony why would you change your username and strive to be someone else until you were caught...hmmmmm?
Can she deadlift her bodyweight? I ain't sayin' that to be a dick, because inability to extend the hip (under load) is what puts little-old ladies without much muscle, in wheelchairs and nursing homes. That is a fact. TOO MUCH running, especially if done with poor form (heel-striking) will destroy the hip joint. Food for thought.
I want to make sure I am seeing this correctly:
The dude who talks smack like a pro, yet ignores any request for a pic or two (despite the person he called out doing so multiple times) is now calling out a middle-aged woman's deadlift because she runs faster than his pathetic ass???
Fraud is too nice of a word. I doubt if they would have let you be the water boy in a spec-ops unit with that attitude.
And, while you say it is stupid, I ran a few marathons with active duty SEALS (disclaimer, I was a "regular" grunt in the corps, not recon or FAST) and they did a lot of that stuff. A navy guy got me to do my first ironman.
And I KNOW they were on the teams. You, you're just some loudmouth on the internet who doesn't know how to use a camera, but is an expert at almost anything military related.
Can she deadlift her bodyweight? I ain't sayin' that to be a dick, because inability to extend the hip (under load) is what puts little-old ladies without much muscle, in wheelchairs and nursing homes. That is a fact. TOO MUCH running, especially if done with poor form (heel-striking) will destroy the hip joint. Food for thought.
She does light weight training and yoga, and some other stretching/balance exercise on a 'ballet bar'???
She is very strong and I have no doubt she could hoist up 122 lbs with a belt on so she doesn't hurt her spine [discs], she's 5' 8.5", that be a pretty long lift for someone that doesn't train for it.
Can she deadlift her bodyweight? I ain't sayin' that to be a dick, because inability to extend the hip (under load) is what puts little-old ladies without much muscle, in wheelchairs and nursing homes. That is a fact. TOO MUCH running, especially if done with poor form (heel-striking) will destroy the hip joint. Food for thought.
I want to make sure I am seeing this correctly:
The dude who talks smack like a pro, yet ignores any request for a pic or two (despite the person he called out doing so multiple times) is now calling out a middle-aged woman's deadlift because she runs faster than his pathetic ass???
I said what I said out of genuine concern for the woman's well-being. You however, can FOAD.
kinda funny comparing two personalities participating in this thread....one side we have 4321/TAK and his boasts....now compare that to some of the stories some of us actually know bout one big SOB we have met in person......what would TAK's boasts be if he had some of gunners experiances
She is very strong and I have no doubt she could hoist up 122 lbs with a belt on so she doesn't hurt her spine [discs], she's 5' 8.5", that be a pretty long lift for someone that doesn't train for it.
I encourage her (and you as well) to investigate doing the Crossfit Endurance program. Google it. Go to a Crossfit gym and get some training and combine that with her running (and add a C2 Rower) At 52, she is getting to the age where gaining muscle is really hard, and loosing it is really easy.
Her run times will likely slow down a tad but she'll be more fit. Running is only a small part of true fitness.
She is very strong and I have no doubt she could hoist up 122 lbs with a belt on so she doesn't hurt her spine [discs], she's 5' 8.5", that be a pretty long lift for someone that doesn't train for it.
I encourage her (and you as well) to investigate doing the Crossfit Endurance program. Google it. Go to a Crossfit gym and get some training and combine that with her running (and add a C2 Rower) At 52, she is getting to the age where gaining muscle is really hard, and loosing it is really easy.
Her run times will likely slow down a tad but she'll be more fit. Running is only a small part of true fitness.
10-4, I'll pass along the info to her, she may already be familiar with or doing it.
You realize that you are talking to yourself right? NOBODY believes ANYTHING you say and we are all a little dumber because of YOU. Pathetic little boy.
Can she deadlift her bodyweight? I ain't sayin' that to be a dick, because inability to extend the hip (under load) is what puts little-old ladies without much muscle, in wheelchairs and nursing homes. That is a fact. TOO MUCH running, especially if done with poor form (heel-striking) will destroy the hip joint. Food for thought.
I want to make sure I am seeing this correctly:
The dude who talks smack like a pro, yet ignores any request for a pic or two (despite the person he called out doing so multiple times) is now calling out a middle-aged woman's deadlift because she runs faster than his pathetic ass???
I said what I said out of genuine concern for the woman's well-being. You however, can FOAD.
Riddle me this dipchit...other than being a phony why would you change your username and strive to be someone else until you were caught...hmmmmm?
"Caught?" BWWWWWWHHHHHAAAAA! You silly SOB
Come call my Mother a B to my face. Got the balls too?
Yep as I thought ............ just crickets...
I apologize for the gratuitous swipe at your Mom, as my derisive term of choice was purely directed at your dumbazz. The fact still remains that she raised an azzwipe, and as AARP eligible, I don't resort to fisticuffs, so if you and I ever have a F2F, take a swing and see what happens.
Come call my Mother a B to my face. Got the balls too?
Yep as I thought ............ just crickets...
I apologize for the gratuitous swipe at your Mom, as my derisive term of choice was purely directed at your dumbazz. The fact still remains that she raised an azzwipe, and as AARP eligible, I don't resort to fisticuffs, so if you and I ever have a F2F, take a swing and see what happens.
you spew a bunch of bullchit lameass..I'll buy you a bus ticket..my dog leaves tougher and more intelligent stuff in the yard than you could hope to be.
and you dodged the question...why the username change lame brain. Couldn't face the light of day?
I apologize for the gratuitous swipe at your Mom, as my derisive term of choice was purely directed at your dumbazz. The fact still remains that she raised an azzwipe, and as AARP eligible, I don't resort to fisticuffs, so if you and I ever have a F2F, take a swing and see what happens.
This is what pathetic little boys do. Apologize for nothing,hurl insults and names and then threaten you with violence. 4321 you are a sad fool that should shoot your computer with your beloved bb gun.
You know, I've taken offense at being called a troll, but I must confess to being guilty of it this evening. TFF. My B/P is probably 40mm/Hg lower than most of you lardazzes, I'm sure.
You know, I've taken offense at being called a troll, but I must confess to being guilty of it this evening. TFF. My B/P is probably 40mm/Hg lower than most of you lardazzes, I'm sure.
You know, I've taken offense at being called a troll, but I must confess to being guilty of it this evening. TFF. My B/P is probably 40mm/Hg lower than most of you lardazzes, I'm sure.
Of course, you know that is irrelevant to the discussion. Especially since you won't even post a pic.
Me:
You:
Fraud.
And that is a Surly Long Haul Trucker with a 64cm frame. You couldn't even stand over it without the bar being three inches up your vagina.
Those Crocs, with GOOD platform pedals, are actually awesome if you're gonna put 90 miles or so on a fully loaded touring bike. You have to wear real shoes when you ride gravel though, and half the 300 miles to my cabin is gravel.
I go pretty light when I tour on a bike, so they double as camp footwear and I ride with them on pavement days as well. Much lighter than dedicated bike shoes AND tennis/camp shoes. I wear trail running shoes when gravel is on the menu.
They are camo, so they come in man-card neutral.....
28 pages to pile on a guy, or anyone else, who doesn't agree with you. I think 4321 is right, most you guys probably could use a good work out routine, get rid of some of that pent up irritation from your vagina itch.
Goalie, you using free weights or machines to get that build? How much you dead lifting? 7/800?
Goalie, you using free weights or machines to get that build? How much you dead lifting? 7/800?
Free weights. Pull ups. Push ups. Jump rope.
All the stuff a goalie does to not get hurt playing with people who are actually athletic and have Stanley Cup rings.
Hockey Day Minnesota outdoor game 2012:
Laughing as the Defending the Blue Line guys gave me crap since I played for the NHL Alum instead of the military team (and got a shutout on TV):
That guy with no helmet and the purple hat, he was the captain of the Red Wings.
My name's on my jersey, and people here have met me.
It's the internet. Pissing matches are a joke. I just find it really, REALLY hard to believe that Mr High-Speed, Low-Drag is the real deal. He acts so much differently than everyone I know who actually was elite, whether in the military or just in sports.
All I know is I will be having beer with 24HC members in Blaine MN next week and NOT calling them fat-asses or generally being an a-hole.
But, to answer the question: I dead lift and squat enough that I have played goalie since the 1970's without needing lower body surgery. I am not a one-trick pony, and, despite TAK's blather, running isn't a one-way ticket to an ortho surgeon. (I do bike more than run these days, but have not fallen apart yet despite running a LOT for many years.)
I have not said doing crossfit stuff is bad. Heck, I've been known to juggle on a balance board for a warm-down.
Doubt it. I work with several MARSOC boys though. I've not mentioned units and don't plan to.
No, I have friends that were Army.
So, you want us all to believe you were Billy Badass but you won't say where or with whom?
Like, gee, me saying I was with 2nd Tank Bn from 89-91, then transferred to 1/8 to do a Med cruise that turned into a Red Sea fiasco from Fall 91-Spring '92 is somehow knowledge that should be secret?
Or are you saying that you were a super-secret squirrel in a double-secret unit? I only ask because you've already said you were Spec-ops, so what the hell is the big deal of saying what unit you were with and when? It isn't like you are telling state secrets..... [Edit: don't tell me WHERE you were, just with what unit when]
Doubt it. I work with several MARSOC boys though. I've not mentioned units and don't plan to.
You just got promoted from just pathetic to a pathetic doosh bag. You are an insult to everyone that has served.
Whatever. I've got a retired ID card and an SFQC Diploma along with all manner of other documents, 21yrs worth. Care to bet? I'd LOVE to take your money.
If you would love to take someone's money, why not call his bluff, douchenozzle?
Raisin Noodle, Take A Pee, or now, Countbacula, you are always worried bout the fatties and broke backers. Prolly a fat puffer yourself. Best you will ever get is a fat butted Q'ueer with Parkinson syndrome.
That guy with no helmet and the purple hat, he was the captain of the Red Wings.
That's Reed friggin Larson! He's aged a bit, but I bet he could still smoke a slapshot - one of the hardest shooters the Wings have ever had. Wearing the same number too. Damn shame he missed all of the Howe era and left as Yzerman was coming into his prime. Think he was a Golden Gopher too.
goalie, did ya get any of his real shots or was he just having fun?
That guy with no helmet and the purple hat, he was the captain of the Red Wings.
That's Reed friggin Larson! He's aged a bit, but I bet he could still smoke a slapshot - one of the hardest shooters the Wings have ever had. Wearing the same number too. Damn shame he missed all of the Howe era and left as Yzerman was coming into his prime. Think he was a Golden Gopher too.
goalie, did ya get any of his real shots or was he just having fun?
Good on ya! That's cool right there!
I play goalie for those guys every Sunday except in the Summer.
He still shoots the puck hard. Harder than a lot of the 30-something guys who just played a few years in the NHL.
I upgraded my mask when I started playing with those guys.
As am I, wonder if we could get autographs? Having actually been in spec ops I find it doubtful he would have survived as we mostly had remedies for undesirables and I'm being kind with that word!
I must apologize for myself, if not for TAK for derailing this thread. I forgot....Im supposed to be in mourning for another idiot....instead of jousting with one thats still here.
As am I, wonder if we could get autographs? Having actually been in spec ops I find it doubtful he would have survived as we mostly had remedies for undesirables and I'm being kind with that word!
I must apologize for myself, if not for TAK for derailing this thread. I forgot....Im supposed to be in mourning for another idiot....instead of jousting with one thats still here.
As am I, wonder if we could get autographs? Having actually been in spec ops I find it doubtful he would have survived as we mostly had remedies for undesirables and I'm being kind with that word!
In the inimitable words of stoolhead, "BLOW ME".
Then prove it azz wipe pics would be nice or were you just to stupid to operate a camera?..
The first time someone calls you a horse you punch them in the face. The second time someone calls you a horse you call them a jerk. The third time someone calls you a horse you should about getting a saddle.
The first time someone calls you a horse you punch them in the face. The second time someone calls you a horse you call them a jerk. The third time someone calls you a horse you should about getting a saddle.
What cowardly frauds and liars consider fun simply manifests what a pitiful, worthless waste of life you are.
You'll have your demented version of fun for only so long as Rick has you on ignore. Your done when he discovers your pathetic existence, existences rather.
Alleged fake Army Ranger in viral video may face federal charges
In a YouTube video that's gone viral, a Bucks County war veteran accuses a man shopping in Army fatigues of posing as a member of a special operations unit.
So far, an investigation hasn't determined whether the man who claimed he was an Army Ranger asked for a military discount on Black Friday at a shoe store in the Oxford Valley Mall, near Langhorne.
Middletown Township police Chief Joseph Bartorilla on Tuesday also said jurisdiction in the case � if a crime is believed to have occurred � has not yet been determined, though the investigation is continuing on multiple fronts.
Stolen Valor Happens More Than You Think Meeting a decorated veteran is a big honor. But what if those medals and ribbons are fake. Stolen Valor happens more than you think. Army Sgt. Ryan Berk, 26, who served in the 101st Airborne Division in Afghanistan in 2010-11, captured his confrontation with the man in fatigues in a video posted on YouTube, which had generated more than 2.1 million views as of Tuesday evening.
The video prompted Bucks County Congressman Mike Fitzpatrick, R-8th District, to write to U.S. Attorney Zane Memeger on Monday, notifying him that the video "possibly" contains evidence of a federal crime.
Falsely claiming to be in the armed forces is not illegal, but under the Stolen Valor Act of 2013, it's against federal law for someone to fraudulently portray himself or herself as a recipient of any of several specified military decorations or medals with the intent to obtain money, property or other tangible benefit.
Similarly, under Pennsylvania law, it's a summary offense to falsely wear a military or police uniform or other insignia for purposes of obtaining a profit, soliciting business or fundraising.
The executive director of the National Infantry Association, retired Col. Richard Nurnberg, said Tuesday the name of the man who said he was a Ranger does not appear in the Army's database, meaning he is not on active duty or recently retired.
Nurnberg said he is checking to see if the man serves in the Rangers.
"Looking at him, I'm sure he's not," he added.
The newspaper is withholding the identity of the man because he has not been charged with a crime. Several attempts to reach him have been unsuccessful.
A woman who answered the door Saturday at his home in Philadelphia claimed he had a military background but declined to provide details. She said the family had no comment on the matter.
Berk, who is studying criminal justice at Temple University, said he noticed the man's Army fatigues while he was shopping in a shoe store. But when he got a closer look, Berk said, he noticed "little things" that were off about the man's appearance � the shoelaces on his boots weren't right, an American flag patch was in the wrong spot on his sleeve, and he was missing a combat patch.
They are things that most civilians wouldn't pick up on but that no military veteran would get wrong, said Berk, of Holland in Lower Bucks. Berk received a Purple Heart after he was hit in the face and head with shrapnel in Afghanistan in 2010.
What led him to confront the man, Berk said, was a 20-minute conversation he overheard during which the man told a small boy about his military experiences.
After the man left the shoe store, Berk turned on his smartphone camera and called him over, saying his son admired guys in the Army. Berk did not identify himself as an Army veteran until almost at the end of the 3-minute, 26-second video.
In the video, the pudgy man says he is a staff sergeant with the 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. He also claims he recently returned to the area from Fort Lewis in Washington state, which is where the regiment is stationed.
"I'm what's called a TAC-1," he says. "All I do is I go out on missions."
Berk peppers him with questions he said anyone with Army service should be able to easily answer.
"Where is your combat patch at?" Berk asks.
"I gave it to a little kid over there," he replies.
Berk asks why the American flag patch was so low on his shoulder.
"You got me on that one, bud," the man replies.
He wear three Combat Infantryman Badges and says he received them in Afghanistan.
When Berk responds that the man would have had to serve in three different campaigns, the man says one badge was for service in Iraq and the others for different tours of Afghanistan.
Nurnberg, of the National Infantry Association, said only one CIB would be awarded for service in Afghanistan (Operation Enduring Freedom) and/or Iraq (Operation Iraqi Freedom/Operation New Dawn).
The National Infantry Museum at Fort Benning, Ga., which tracks Army service personnel with three CIBs, lists only 324 and the man Berk confronted is not on the list. There are four periods for which the badge can be awarded: World War II; Korea; Vietnam and other Cold War era actions through March 1995; and the War on Terror, from 2001 to the present, according to the Army.
"The only three-time earners would have had to serve in World War II, Korea and Vietnam, because nobody who earned one in Korea would have still been active for the desert wars," Nurnberg added.
When Berk called the man in fatigues a phony, accusing him of impersonating a soldier, the man offered to take him to meet his sergeant major, who he said was also in the mall. He also denied lying about his military service.
"If I was a phony, I wouldn't be wearing this uniform," the man said.
But Berk said he's convinced that the man was not a Ranger.
"He's impersonating in the uniform people died for," Berk added. "He was wearing awards that I earned and he didn't."
Alleged fake Army Ranger in viral video may face federal charges
In a YouTube video that's gone viral, a Bucks County war veteran accuses a man shopping in Army fatigues of posing as a member of a special operations unit.
So far, an investigation hasn't determined whether the man who claimed he was an Army Ranger asked for a military discount on Black Friday at a shoe store in the Oxford Valley Mall, near Langhorne.
Middletown Township police Chief Joseph Bartorilla on Tuesday also said jurisdiction in the case � if a crime is believed to have occurred � has not yet been determined, though the investigation is continuing on multiple fronts.
Stolen Valor Happens More Than You Think Meeting a decorated veteran is a big honor. But what if those medals and ribbons are fake. Stolen Valor happens more than you think. Army Sgt. Ryan Berk, 26, who served in the 101st Airborne Division in Afghanistan in 2010-11, captured his confrontation with the man in fatigues in a video posted on YouTube, which had generated more than 2.1 million views as of Tuesday evening.
The video prompted Bucks County Congressman Mike Fitzpatrick, R-8th District, to write to U.S. Attorney Zane Memeger on Monday, notifying him that the video "possibly" contains evidence of a federal crime.
Falsely claiming to be in the armed forces is not illegal, but under the Stolen Valor Act of 2013, it's against federal law for someone to fraudulently portray himself or herself as a recipient of any of several specified military decorations or medals with the intent to obtain money, property or other tangible benefit.
Similarly, under Pennsylvania law, it's a summary offense to falsely wear a military or police uniform or other insignia for purposes of obtaining a profit, soliciting business or fundraising.
The executive director of the National Infantry Association, retired Col. Richard Nurnberg, said Tuesday the name of the man who said he was a Ranger does not appear in the Army's database, meaning he is not on active duty or recently retired.
Nurnberg said he is checking to see if the man serves in the Rangers.
"Looking at him, I'm sure he's not," he added.
The newspaper is withholding the identity of the man because he has not been charged with a crime. Several attempts to reach him have been unsuccessful.
A woman who answered the door Saturday at his home in Philadelphia claimed he had a military background but declined to provide details. She said the family had no comment on the matter.
Berk, who is studying criminal justice at Temple University, said he noticed the man's Army fatigues while he was shopping in a shoe store. But when he got a closer look, Berk said, he noticed "little things" that were off about the man's appearance � the shoelaces on his boots weren't right, an American flag patch was in the wrong spot on his sleeve, and he was missing a combat patch.
They are things that most civilians wouldn't pick up on but that no military veteran would get wrong, said Berk, of Holland in Lower Bucks. Berk received a Purple Heart after he was hit in the face and head with shrapnel in Afghanistan in 2010.
What led him to confront the man, Berk said, was a 20-minute conversation he overheard during which the man told a small boy about his military experiences.
After the man left the shoe store, Berk turned on his smartphone camera and called him over, saying his son admired guys in the Army. Berk did not identify himself as an Army veteran until almost at the end of the 3-minute, 26-second video.
In the video, the pudgy man says he is a staff sergeant with the 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. He also claims he recently returned to the area from Fort Lewis in Washington state, which is where the regiment is stationed.
"I'm what's called a TAC-1," he says. "All I do is I go out on missions."
Berk peppers him with questions he said anyone with Army service should be able to easily answer.
"Where is your combat patch at?" Berk asks.
"I gave it to a little kid over there," he replies.
Berk asks why the American flag patch was so low on his shoulder.
"You got me on that one, bud," the man replies.
He wear three Combat Infantryman Badges and says he received them in Afghanistan.
When Berk responds that the man would have had to serve in three different campaigns, the man says one badge was for service in Iraq and the others for different tours of Afghanistan.
Nurnberg, of the National Infantry Association, said only one CIB would be awarded for service in Afghanistan (Operation Enduring Freedom) and/or Iraq (Operation Iraqi Freedom/Operation New Dawn).
The National Infantry Museum at Fort Benning, Ga., which tracks Army service personnel with three CIBs, lists only 324 and the man Berk confronted is not on the list. There are four periods for which the badge can be awarded: World War II; Korea; Vietnam and other Cold War era actions through March 1995; and the War on Terror, from 2001 to the present, according to the Army.
"The only three-time earners would have had to serve in World War II, Korea and Vietnam, because nobody who earned one in Korea would have still been active for the desert wars," Nurnberg added.
When Berk called the man in fatigues a phony, accusing him of impersonating a soldier, the man offered to take him to meet his sergeant major, who he said was also in the mall. He also denied lying about his military service.
"If I was a phony, I wouldn't be wearing this uniform," the man said.
But Berk said he's convinced that the man was not a Ranger.
"He's impersonating in the uniform people died for," Berk added. "He was wearing awards that I earned and he didn't."
You and that fat bastid in the vid both need to off yourselves.
Hence, the apologizing for talking about somebody's mother earlier.
No, I apologized because I can still sense the humanity of even those who despise me. He called me on my actions, and I did what I thought was right. You should try it.
Been off on a doughnut run Blue? Don't quit so easy.
So, does your silence mean you are not willing to post pics or disclose when and with what spec-ops unit you served?
My offer to compare dd214's is still open.
Fraud
I may, or may not, choose to post pics.
I WILL NOT post my DD214 or any other personal documents, even if you were stupid enough to post yours first.
I WILL bet your azz 2K dollars that I can produce documents to validate any and all claims to service that I've ever made on this or any other site.
Face-to-face. Local VA rep to validate authenticity.
Put up or STFU.
Seems like the ball is in your court goalie. You, rwe, DeFlave and Ingwe have all called TAK/4321 out on this subject over the years and it's not the first time he's offered to produce if his criteria was met. I don't have a dog in this fight and am not taking sides, but his criteria seems reasonable.
You, rwe, DeFlave and Ingwe have all called TAK/4321 out on this subject over the years and it's not the first time he's offered to produce if his criteria was met. I don't have a dog in this fight and am not taking sides, but his criteria seems reasonable.
The MO is more than a little recognizable. Ain't it?
Ethan, I am willing. I just want to clarify exactly what we are verifying.
From what I gather, TAK was a special forces sniper per his posts. I want him to simply state his mos here and who/when he served with, as I have. Until he does that, what is the point?
For all his claims, the lack of a CIB screams non combat mos supporting a spec-ops unit.
No shame in that, but it is a far cry from what he has alluded to....... while being careful to not be specific.
You, rwe, DeFlave and Ingwe have all called TAK/4321 out on this subject over the years and it's not the first time he's offered to produce if his criteria was met. I don't have a dog in this fight and am not taking sides, but his criteria seems reasonable.
I don't want to go all TRH on you and nitpick any phraseology, but I have not called him out.
In fact, I have asked that he simply provide the information and end the bullshit.
I think you will note that if you reread my posts.
I've joked about the lack of pix & camera fail, and a lot of things for that matter, but for reasons of my own, I have never seriously posted any doubts on his credentials, whether I have any or not is inconsequential.
Just wanted to point that out as it is needed for those that paint with broad brushes, and lump things together.
You, rwe, DeFlave and Ingwe have all called TAK/4321 out on this subject over the years and it's not the first time he's offered to produce if his criteria was met. I don't have a dog in this fight and am not taking sides, but his criteria seems reasonable.
The MO is more than a little recognizable. Ain't it?
Travis
I told you several years back that you have the perfect chance to get what you want-to see if TAK is real and you ain't doing it. It seems easy enough for y'all to find out here if you really want to.
I told you several years back that you have the perfect chance to get what you want-to see if TAK is real and you ain't doing it. It seems easy enough for y'all to find out here if you really want to.
I don't recall you telling me anything but (as has been proven plenty of times) there are people on this site that can (and likely will) figure out who he is.
I'm just not one of them. I just like making fun of him because he's full of schit. If people want to believe them, they're more than welcome to believe him and take his advice.
You, rwe, DeFlave and Ingwe have all called TAK/4321 out on this subject over the years and it's not the first time he's offered to produce if his criteria was met. I don't have a dog in this fight and am not taking sides, but his criteria seems reasonable.
I don't want to go all TRH on you and nitpick any phraseology, but I have not called him out.
In fact, I have asked that he simply provide the information and end the bullshit.
I think you will note that if you reread my posts.
I've joked about the lack of pix & camera fail, and a lot of things for that matter, but for reasons of my own, I have never seriously posted any doubts on his credentials, whether I have any or not is inconsequential.
Just wanted to point that out as it is needed for those that paint with broad brushes, and lump things together.
Uh, I dunno dude, it seems like from my spot I can see backup lights going on in North Carolina.
I told you several years back that you have the perfect chance to get what you want-to see if TAK is real and you ain't doing it. It seems easy enough for y'all to find out here if you really want to.
I don't recall you telling me anything but (as has been proven plenty of times) there are people on this site that can (and likely will) figure out who he is.
I'm just not one of them. I just like making fun of him because he's full of schit. If people want to believe them, they're more than welcome to believe him and take his advice.
Travis
I neither believe nor disbelieve him and do not care. I'm pretty sure I told you specifically on a post a few years back where you were dogging him and he called your bluff that you had the perfect opportunity to shut him up but you weren't taking it. This seems obvious to me. The other stuff you're talking about is pure trolling behavior. I will reiterate, I don't care one way or the other but am calling it like I see it. This whole thread is [bleep] up from the jump. Y'all want to see if TAK is real, here is your chance. I don't personally know how it would change anything in my life, but maybe it will in yours. lol
What I want are specifics of what he did for an mos, who he served with, and when.
Without those on the table, a REMF dd214 "wins" since hes only alluded to stuff.
My guess is he was attached to some bad mo-fos. He talks like he was the bad mo-fo.
I just find it odd that he is so evasive about simple things like what unit, when, etc...
Why are you telling me that? You guys keep going on about what you want when you've got the perfect opportunity. I KNOW what you want and don't need it reiterated to me. I'm pointing out that you've got the perfect opportunity here.
In the words of SSGT Crapgame...
"Hey, Oddball, this is your hour of glory. And you're chickening out!"
Uh, I dunno dude, it seems like from my spot I can see backup lights going on in North Carolina.
I'm sure you see that. You've been wrong before.
I don't care if he has the credentials or not.
But he certainly has every opportunity to end it. I simply asked him to take it.
I do see that and I have certainly been wrong before. I was wrong once back in 1972, but you I doubt you knew about that one because you probably hadn't been birthed yet...right?
I neither believe nor disbelieve him and do not care. I'm pretty sure I told you specifically on a post a few years back where you were dogging him and he called your bluff that you had the perfect opportunity to shut him up but you weren't taking it. This seems obvious to me. The other stuff you're talking about is pure trolling behavior. I will reiterate, I don't care one way or the other but am calling it like I see it. This whole thread is [bleep] up from the jump. Y'all want to see if TAK is real, here is your chance. I don't personally know how it would change anything in my life, but maybe it will in yours. lol
I already know he's not "real."
That doesn't mean I'm going to involve John Barsness, drive to Helena, meet a VA rep, and blah, blah blah. The MO is more than clear.
If people choose to believe it, I don't care. I like making fun of him.
And my bet of $8.12 that he won't post a picture still stands.
I've alluded to what I do for a living, if you've got 2K and want to drive to FBKS I'll happily take your loot.
I've no dog in this fight, and really could chive a git one way or the other.
Played this stupid game with Spano the magnificent when we got in a lil internet pizzing match about who'd done what in life.
posted pix of some of my "adventures" and all I got was "and he accuses me of bragging?" No pix from Spano with his exploits.
but geez EE, it would seem to me if a guy's going to often reiterate what kind of shape he's in, and what he's done in the past (that might be true) why the mystery on providing any proof.
to my way of thinking I can come on here and say I've killed some moose and bears and caribou, but posting pix of those happenings solidifies that YES this is a real story Virginia.
all that TAK/4321 says about himself may indeed be true, I've no reason to doubt it.
but it seems rather Obamaesque to me to continually trumpet something without offering proof when called to do so.
kinda like the BC and college transcripts, being in shape and that level of service are things to be proud of and I believe most members here would welcome a guy with those credentials.
and he in fact may have them, but making a guy "bet 2K" to see them seems goofy to me.
but if it seems reasonable to others, I've been in on some caribou kills and have the pix to prove it, just bring your 2K and come on up......(kinda cray cray to my way of thinkin)
What exactly is TAK gonna confirm? He's not willing to say what he's gonna confirm (unit, branch, whatever) and he's been hedging his bets lately.
The only thing he's said is that he has a SFQC (or whatever) diploma. You can get one of this through the National Guard.
You certainly can. You should get in line for one and see how that works out for you.
Hint: It'll involve pullups, among other things.
Well? See your local recruiter. Hell, I think I know one in TX. The 20th and 19th SF Groups are like Delta Airlines, they're ready when you are, to thrash your azz, that is.
Go for it Blue! SFAS is a cake (or doughnut) walk!
Wait a minute, he's asking someone to PAY HIM 2K to confirm something that there's no issue with such as a man's service record? right...
W-A-G-E-R. I typed slowly
Very good considering, but try to understand the question, why would anybody want to PAY you for this info even as a wager? Seems to me, the armed forces are an honorable profession so why would anybody attempt to obfuscate?*
Here is the deal: you've talked a lot of smack. You are a subject matter expert on most anything .mil or so it seems. You want to bet that you can prove you were WHAT?????
So, let's try this:
Were you active duty or reserves/guard? You talk like you were a ninja on active duty all over the world. Nobody is going to bet you that you can't produce papers that prove you were in the National Guard SF.
At least you've admitted that you don't have a CIB on your 214. That's a start.
Now, let's just clarify what you did, who you were with, and move on.
OR, claim you were active duty SF, claim your MOS was a sniper on active duty, and we've got us a bet.
Here is the deal: you've talked a lot of smack. You are a subject matter expert on most anything .mil or so it seems. You want to bet that you can prove you were WHAT?????
So, let's try this:
Were you active duty or reserves/guard? You talk like you were a ninja on active duty all over the world. Nobody is going to bet you that you can't produce papers that prove you were in the National Guard SF.
At least you've admitted that you don't have a CIB on your 214. That's a start.
Now, let's just clarify what you did, who you were with, and move on.
OR, claim you were active duty SF, claim your MOS was a sniper on active duty, and we've got us a bet.
Fraud.
And I will gladly verify documentation at the .mil level without compromising identity.
I see that this pathetic boy still ain't got the boot yet. It's gonna happen pretty quick from what I hear. Yuck it up boy. It'll all be over for you soon enough.
Here is the deal: you've talked a lot of smack. You are a subject matter expert on most anything .mil or so it seems. You want to bet that you can prove you were WHAT?????
So, let's try this:
Were you active duty or reserves/guard? You talk like you were a ninja on active duty all over the world. Nobody is going to bet you that you can't produce papers that prove you were in the National Guard SF.
At least you've admitted that you don't have a CIB on your 214. That's a start.
Now, let's just clarify what you did, who you were with, and move on.
OR, claim you were active duty SF, claim your MOS was a sniper on active duty, and we've got us a bet.
Fraud.
And I will gladly verify documentation at the .mil level without compromising identity.
Here is the deal: you've talked a lot of smack. You are a subject matter expert on most anything .mil or so it seems. You want to bet that you can prove you were WHAT?????
So, let's try this:
Were you active duty or reserves/guard? You talk like you were a ninja on active duty all over the world. Nobody is going to bet you that you can't produce papers that prove you were in the National Guard SF.
At least you've admitted that you don't have a CIB on your 214. That's a start.
Now, let's just clarify what you did, who you were with, and move on.
OR, claim you were active duty SF, claim your MOS was a sniper on active duty, and we've got us a bet.
Fraud.
And I will gladly verify documentation at the .mil level without compromising identity.
So I'm a liar but all of a sudden you can't remember what I've lied about?
When did I call you a liar? I think you're exactly what you've claimed.
A washed up, has been military guy who's eternally frustrated that the rest of the world won't realize how awesome you are. But they just see you as the little short guy just like everyone in High School.
So I'm a liar but all of a sudden you can't remember what I've lied about?
When did I call you a liar? I think you're exactly what you've claimed.
A washed up, has been military guy who's eternally frustrated that the rest of the world won't realize how awesome you are. But they just see you as the little short guy just like everyone in High School.
You play that part too well for it to be fake.
I don't know that he's LIED either. I do know he is going through a lot of frigging trouble to avoid answering simple questions though. Questions any reasonable person would ask considering his proposed bet and his alleged level of expertise in so many facets of .mil
Now, me. I was an 03 and an 01 in my enlistment. I don't exactly think highly of people that served, yet somehow are not ok with what they did and feel the need to either embellish or mislead through omission. I would be fine if my whole enlistment I had an 01 MOS. It's still more than most people do, and nothing to be ashamed of as long as you served honorably.
There damn sure ain't anything wrong with being Guard SF. Just be honest about it, and don't pretend through insinuation that you were something you were not: like an active duty ninja flying around the world doing HALO and HAHO drops into hot drop zones......
There damn sure ain't anything wrong with being Guard SF. Just be honest about it, and don't pretend through insinuation that you were something you were not: like an active duty ninja flying around the world doing HALO and HAHO drops into hot drop zones......
Never made a single claim of spending a single day in a combat zone in a military uniform, only as a contractor. I HAVE been on three continents assigned as an 18D, and I can document it. There is no such thing as a "sniper MOS" in SF. I do believe graduates from Level 1 schools get an MOS identifier, like V for Ranger, and W8 for HALO, W7 for dive, and W9 for both There again, you seek to embellish and obfuscate, and talk about schidt you don't have a clue about.
There damn sure ain't anything wrong with being Guard SF. Just be honest about it, and don't pretend through insinuation that you were something you were not: like an active duty ninja flying around the world doing HALO and HAHO drops into hot drop zones......
Never made a single claim of spending a single day in a combat zone in a military uniform, only as a contractor. I HAVE been on three continents assigned as an 18D, and I can document it. There is no such thing as a "sniper MOS" in SF. I do believe graduates from Level 1 schools get an MOS identifier, like V for Ranger, and W8 for HALO, W7 for dive, and W9 for both There again, you seek to embellish and obfuscate, and talk about schidt you don't have a clue about.
OK, you had your shot.
I didn't think you would just answer simply YES I was active duty SF or NO, I was Guard SF.
I was right.
GFY. And have fun bitching about how you could have won 2k, but you just wanted to stay mysterious and stuff.....
Edit: Oh, and Ethan, you can STFU as well. The poser doesn't actually want to play, he just wants to beat around the bush.
You talk like you were a ninja on active duty all over the world.
You are a liar. You obfuscate and seek to embelish, as you are wont to do. Same silly schidt you always tried to pull on TRH.
You act like Obama more and more as this goes on. Didn't you ever wonder why Obama didn't just show his damned birth certificate instead of stalling, dodging and attacking those who asked to see it?
You talk like you were a ninja on active duty all over the world.
You are a liar. You obfuscate and seek to embelish, as you are wont to do. Same silly schidt you always tried to pull on TRH.
You act like Obama more and more as this goes on. Didn't you ever wonder why Obama didn't just show his damned birth certificate instead of stalling, dodging and attacking those who asked to see it?
I like how he refers to stuff I ALWAYS tried to pull on TRH.
I got into it with the guy once. ONCE. He started yapping about something I am actually knowledgeable about and didn't have a clue. Granted I kept hounding him, but only in one thread.
TFF though that he won't just say whether he was active duty or guard. Must be one helluva inferiority complex.....
Come on TAK all I hear are crickets..not an easy search is it?.
This work for you? Could be a way to insert as well, but HALO has more style points. You ever made a bridal-loop jump?
I flew CAS combat missions but every spec ops troop knows what "exfil" means...should have rolled off your tongue in a nano second..love to see a pic of you beside a Herk with a rucksack but that's just your imagery lover ??
but every spec ops troop knows what "exfil" means...should have rolled off your tongue in a nano second..love to see a pic of you beside a Herk with a rucksack but that's just your imagery lover ??
Let's see, I wonder what a "Herk" is? Is this related?: You ever done this?
You also never answered my "bridal loop jump" question. If you're gonna send an E-2 after a bottle of rotor-wash, at least make is somewhat of a challenge.
but every spec ops troop knows what "exfil" means...should have rolled off your tongue in a nano second..love to see a pic of you beside a Herk with a rucksack but that's just your imagery lover ??
Let's see, I wonder what a "Herk" is? Is this related?: You ever done this?
You also never answered my "bridal loop jump" question. If you're gonna send an E-2 after a bottle of rotor-wash, at least make is somewhat of a challenge.
Nope never did but you on the other hand hide behind You Tube vids as you do by your multiple screen names hoping to convince us of your Ninjatude.
You know-If he'd've come here a few years ago and said, "I was NG Special Forces, never got deployed into combat but did some cool stuff and got some cool training. After I retired I went back as a contractor."....I for one would've thought he was pretty HSLD. It takes a lot to even get a chance to try out for those spots.
But the bottom line now is that I wouldn't care if he pulled the trigger on bin laden. It doesn't make him less of a douche bag or this whole thing less embarrassing.
MANY times. Master Parachute badge. 1st round go in Jumpmaster School. Scored a 99 on JMPI.
You do realize how odd it is that you are willing to throw out certain specifics like this, yet you won't simply state guard or regular army, don't you?
MANY times. Master Parachute badge. 1st round go in Jumpmaster School. Scored a 99 on JMPI.
You do realize how odd it is that you are willing to throw out certain specifics like this, yet you won't simply state guard or regular army, don't you?
I was 11B2P on active duty and 18B/18D in the Guard and Reserves. Jorge will soon reveal all. I told him I'd send him whatever documents he wants to see and he said he could validate them.
You know-If he'd've come here a few years ago and said, "I was NG Special Forces, never got deployed into combat but did some cool stuff and got some cool training. After I retired I went back as a contractor."....I for one would've thought he was pretty HSLD. It takes a lot to even get a chance to try out for those spots.
That is probably pretty much what I did say azzwipe, but because I didn't post pictures, with a ninja mask on, I'm a liar. I've never misrepresented myself here. GFY, and eat another doughnut.
You know-If he'd've come here a few years ago and said, "I was NG Special Forces, never got deployed into combat but did some cool stuff and got some cool training. After I retired I went back as a contractor."....I for one would've thought he was pretty HSLD. It takes a lot to even get a chance to try out for those spots.
That is probably pretty much what I did say azzwipe, but because I didn't post pictures, with a ninja mask on, I'm a liar. I've never misrepresented myself here. GFY, and eat another doughnut.
It took you about 10 pages to just say you were SF in the guard. We all knew that was the case, you just had a real, real hard time saying it.
You know-If he'd've come here a few years ago and said, "I was NG Special Forces, never got deployed into combat but did some cool stuff and got some cool training. After I retired I went back as a contractor."....I for one would've thought he was pretty HSLD. It takes a lot to even get a chance to try out for those spots.
That is probably pretty much what I did say azzwipe, but because I didn't post pictures, with a ninja mask on, I'm a liar. I've never misrepresented myself here. GFY, and eat another doughnut.
It took you about 10 pages to just say you were SF in the guard. We all knew that was the case, you just had a real, real hard time saying it.
You know-If he'd've come here a few years ago and said, "I was NG Special Forces, never got deployed into combat but did some cool stuff and got some cool training. After I retired I went back as a contractor."....I for one would've thought he was pretty HSLD. It takes a lot to even get a chance to try out for those spots.
That is probably pretty much what I did say azzwipe, but because I didn't post pictures, with a ninja mask on, I'm a liar. I've never misrepresented myself here. GFY, and eat another doughnut.
It took you about 10 pages to just say you were SF in the guard. We all knew that was the case, you just had a real, real hard time saying it.
Mega-douche extraordinaire.
GFY poser
Yes, SFAS/SFQC is a LOT easier in the Guard. It is REALLY easy for "runts" like me, since we all carried the same weights. What a poser I am. You show the world what a douche you are every day.
That is probably pretty much what I did say azzwipe,
No.
Not even close.
You've been incorporating the words "Green Beret" and "sniper" into as many sentences as possible. And some that weren't possible. But you still managed to do it anyway.
That is probably pretty much what I did say azzwipe,
No.
Not even close.
You've been incorporating the words "Green Beret" and "sniper" into as many sentences as possible. And some that weren't possible. But you still managed to do it anyway.
Travis
You ignorant fugger, what do you think an 18D is? I have a plaque and a course completion certificate from SOTIC, but your ignorant azz doesn't even know what that is.
"Whose Rob Leatham?".....in the pistol forum. You can't make that schidt up.
That is probably pretty much what I did say azzwipe,
No.
Not even close.
You've been incorporating the words "Green Beret" and "sniper" into as many sentences as possible. And some that weren't possible. But you still managed to do it anyway.
Travis
Ummm...if he passed SFAS etc guard or not he is a Green Beret.
That is probably pretty much what I did say azzwipe,
No.
Not even close.
You've been incorporating the words "Green Beret" and "sniper" into as many sentences as possible. And some that weren't possible. But you still managed to do it anyway.
Travis
Ummm...if he passed SFAS etc guard or not he is a Green Beret.
This is supposed to be about TRH and his untimely demise. This is an absolute shock. At 6'3" 235-240 lbs, John, um.....TRH, had great physical strength, was fit, ate healthy and didn`t even look his age at all. I told the doctor that he never complained of any head issues.
Ummm...if he passed SFAS etc guard or not he is a Green Beret.
Sorry. I didn't know they were all Green Berets and snipers.
But thanks for clarifying.
Travis
Perhaps before you degrade someone, you should do some research first.
I know a Green Beret from Vietnam who won't talk about his service and damn sure wouldn't post pics on the internet.
We will have to see what Jorge has to say...
Maybe he was actually in combat and did things that scarred him?
The salesman I bought my last truck from had a SF ring on. My wife (20+ year vet) recognized it and mentioned it.
He very casually mentioned that he'd been shot 3x and blown up 2x before being medically retired. Some guys have BTDT.
Just sayin.
I know why he doesn't speak about it. An uncle of mine I have the utmost respect for.
I find it is pretty common within the ranks of the SpecOps community to not show pics and keep their mouths shut as to what they do...probably the type of person it takes to get through the training and all that goes with it...
Perhaps before you degrade someone, you should do some research first.
Sorry. But anybody that acts like TAK (virtually or otherwise) is going to get degraded no matter what. I don't give two flying fuggs if he killed Bin Laden with his dick. You're probably going to get degraded by the majority of the people you encounter in life.
I have told TAK that I would pay him $8.12 if he could prove he was a Green Beret. And I told him I would apologize. That offer still stands.
Perhaps before you degrade someone, you should do some research first.
I know a Green Beret from Vietnam who won't talk about his service and damn sure wouldn't post pics on the internet.
We will have to see what Jorge has to say...
I bet he (your friend) isn't on an internet forum telling everyone about his service time and being vague on specifics either.
Jorge is likely to say exactly what I guessed many pages back, and now, after asking many, many times, TAK actually confirmed: he was guard while SF.
I don't know about anyone else, but my issue is simply that he has been quick to throw out specifics like "I got a 99 on my jump test HOOOOAH" but refused to answer/ignored a simple question of whether or not he was guard/reserve/active duty.
Your friend sounds like the spec-ops people I have known.
Dudes who are really badass don't need to tell you about it, and they usually don't. TAK goes waaaaaay out of his way to interject his service into any and every conversation.
Perhaps before you degrade someone, you should do some research first.
Sorry. But anybody that acts like TAK (virtually or otherwise) is going to get degraded no matter what. I don't give two flying fuggs if he killed Bin Laden with his dick. You're probably going to get degraded by the majority of the people you encounter in life.
I have told TAK that I would pay him $8.12 if he could prove he was a Green Beret. And I told him I would apologize. That offer still stands.
Travis
I'm going to get degraded?
You amuse me at times with your dry humor but, at times, it crosses the line. Accuse others of being an internet ninja, yet you seem to be the king.
I find it is pretty common within the ranks of the SpecOps community to not show pics and keep their mouths shut as to what they do...probably the type of person it takes to get through the training and all that goes with it...
Well, at least he has the not showing pics part down.....
The shutting up part is funny though. Especially when the job description tells people that they are gonna need to be an endurance runner and TAK has derided that skill set endlessly here on 24HC whenever the chance arises......
Perhaps before you degrade someone, you should do some research first.
I know a Green Beret from Vietnam who won't talk about his service and damn sure wouldn't post pics on the internet.
We will have to see what Jorge has to say...
I bet he (your friend) isn't on an internet forum telling everyone about his service time and being vague on specifics either.
Jorge is likely to say exactly what I guessed many pages back, and now, after asking many, many times, TAK actually confirmed: he was guard while SF.
I don't know about anyone else, but my issue is simply that he has been quick to throw out specifics like "I got a 99 on my jump test HOOOOAH" but refused to answer/ignored a simple question of whether or not he was guard/reserve/active duty.
Your friend sounds like the spec-ops people I have known.
Dudes who are really badass don't need to tell you about it, and they usually don't. TAK goes waaaaaay out of his way to interject his service into any and every conversation.
And there it is in a nutshell. It doesn't take SF to be able to read sign.
I know why he doesn't speak about it. An uncle of mine I have the utmost respect for.
I find it is pretty common within the ranks of the SpecOps community to not show pics and keep their mouths shut as to what they do...probably the type of person it takes to get through the training and all that goes with it...
Thank your uncle for me please.
quite a bit different than the issue here with certain bravado and then refusal, eh?
The SpecOps that you refer to actually did OPS, rather than allowing people the "think" they were badass.
I think TAK's 'problem' if you will, is less about what he's done (and thanks for it) and more about his delivery.
And I will say it again...20th group guard or active duty, they go through the SAME training and meet the same requirements. No sign reading required.
I have a friend from college who is in the reserves as a PJ...is he less of a PJ/SpecOps warrior than an active duty PJ?
The answer is a resounding NO.
And I will ask this: if I asked them the simple question of whether they were reserves/guard or active duty, would they just simply answer, or be an evasive weenie for a really, really long time?
I never said the guy didn't go through school, I have just questioned the extent of his exploits.
I've dealt with several reservists from Minnesota that were in Desert Storm/Desert Shield as MP's. They served honorably, but feel the need to sit in the bar and tell amazing stories.
I know they are amazing because I was way ahead of them, and my experiences were not exactly movie material.
TAK reminds me of those guys. He is quick to point out his personal exploits, yet evasive regarding what units he served with and when.
Ya can't have it both ways and expect people to believe you.
I would venture, on internet forums, lots of things aren't as they seem....
Just look at the bravado present in this thread...the usual gang attacking someone who isn't part of the "group." Would think men of such prestige and high esteem wouldn't act like HS kids.
MANY times. Master Parachute badge. 1st round go in Jumpmaster School. Scored a 99 on JMPI.
You do realize how odd it is that you are willing to throw out certain specifics like this, yet you won't simply state guard or regular army, don't you?
I was 11B2P on active duty and 18B/18D in the Guard and Reserves. Jorge will soon reveal all. I told him I'd send him whatever documents he wants to see and he said he could validate them.
Why are you dragging this schitt out? To hell what anyone thinks of your service, I never served, I'll be the first to thank you for your service, but I'm not getting this juvenile pissing match, trying to convince people how worthy your service was compared to somebody else's. It's getting embarrassing. I always thought more of veterans than this crap, who gives a damned where you served doing what...you served, that is all that should matter, be truthful of your service and be proud of it, what is with all the cat and mouse and chest pounding??
Do you know TAK's experiences? Did he lose friends etc?
I don't normally get involved with these threads but your question hits close to home.I don't know if he's lost friends or not many CF SEA vets here have lost friends on the battlefield and certainly aren't dicks about it or hide behind several screen names..You want to defend him be my guest but many of us managed to see through his smoke screen early on.
I would venture, on internet forums, lots of things aren't as they seem....
Just look at the bravado present in this thread...the usual gang attacking someone who isn't part of the "group." Would think men of such prestige and high esteem wouldn't act like HS kids.
might want to take a step back and look at "the group" the reason they are a "group" is they are pretty well all guys that are know quantities....you ask them what they do or what they have done and they will tell you.....you say your passing through their AO and they offer to meet up.....they dont sit and dodge a direct question for what? a couple years now....any other military guy on here when presented the same sorts of questions has no problem answering...
TAK is just a jack arse, doesnt matter what he did or didnt do....plenty of people on here brag bout the chit they did but are happy to provide atleast a little proof, not dodge giving any sort of answer....anyone showing up anywhere making the claims TAK has, works tidbits of their backgrounds into a hell of alot of their conversations and then says i aint telling you chit about it is going to get laughed out of town....
ive met SF guys, though we are a small out in the middle of nowhere town we have produced two SEALs in the last 20 years, one a couple years older than me, one a year younger....funny thing is reguardless of how they were when they went in, neither of them acted like TAK even just out of basic having never left the states....and they sure as [bleep] would answer more or less a direct question bout the basics of their training to anyone that asked....
I would venture, on internet forums, lots of things aren't as they seem....
Just look at the bravado present in this thread...the usual gang attacking someone who isn't part of the "group." Would think men of such prestige and high esteem wouldn't act like HS kids.
TAK is just a jack arse, doesnt matter what he did or didnt do....
Be that as it may, SEAL's are not, have never been, and never will be, SF.
That is no small part of why I've not divulged a lot of my background, and will not divulge much more of it. I have to take 'tards like you and Flave to school every time.
Be that as it may, SEAL's are not, have never been, and never will be, SF.
That is no small part of why I've not divulged a lot of my background, and will not divulge much more of it. I have to take 'tards like you and Flave to school every time.
See, it's this secret squirrel crap, where he insinuates that he was super-operator ninja with a cape and all that rubs some of us who have also been on the sharp end of the stick the wrong way and had us asking questions.
Be that as it may, SEAL's are not, have never been, and never will be, SF.
That is no small part of why I've not divulged a lot of my background, and will not divulge much more of it. I have to take 'tards like you and Flave to school every time.
See, it's this secret squirrel crap, where he insinuates that he was super-operator ninja with a cape and all that rubs some of us who have also been on the sharp end of the stick the wrong way and had us asking questions.
Yeah. SF are the Green Berets. But now all, essentially, all fall under SOCOM. Each has their specialty...ie SF specializes in foreign internal defense, if I remember correctly.
Be that as it may, SEAL's are not, have never been, and never will be, SF.
That is no small part of why I've not divulged a lot of my background, and will not divulge much more of it. I have to take 'tards like you and Flave to school every time.
See, it's this secret squirrel crap, where he insinuates that he was super-operator ninja with a cape and all that rubs some of us who have also been on the sharp end of the stick the wrong way and had us asking questions.
Peace. Out.
Did he just say he's not divulged a lot of his background?
Be that as it may, SEAL's are not, have never been, and never will be, SF.
That is no small part of why I've not divulged a lot of my background, and will not divulge much more of it. I have to take 'tards like you and Flave to school every time.
See, it's this secret squirrel crap, where he insinuates that he was super-operator ninja with a cape and all that rubs some of us who have also been on the sharp end of the stick the wrong way and had us asking questions.
Peace. Out.
exactly
I offered to send you my pack rattler. I hope you rememeber that as I say this...
TAK/4321 is completely correct in saying SEALS are not SF. Know the definitions and history before you go off on a non sequitur tangent.
There is a lot of pride with in the special operations community. Call a SEAL SF and he will probably not like it...
Be that as it may, SEAL's are not, have never been, and never will be, SF.
That is no small part of why I've not divulged a lot of my background, and will not divulge much more of it. I have to take 'tards like you and Flave to school every time.
See, it's this secret squirrel crap, where he insinuates that he was super-operator ninja with a cape and all that rubs some of us who have also been on the sharp end of the stick the wrong way and had us asking questions.
Peace. Out.
exactly
I offered to send you my pack rattler. I hope you rememeber that as I say this...
TAK/4321 is completely correct in saying SEALS are not SF. Know the definitions and history before you go off on a non sequitur tangent.
There is a lot of pride with in the special operations community. Call a SEAL SF and he will probably not like it...
my point is the guy is full of himself to the point of being ridiculous.....he is also full blown obsessed about peoples weights....regardless of what he has done in his past today he presents himself as a phugging joke......
Yeah. SF are the Green Berets. But now all, essentially, all fall under SOCOM. Each has their specialty...ie SF specializes in foreign internal defense, if I remember correctly.
Yes, except for the REAL "ninjas" in JSOC (CAG and ST6,among others) who's commander answers directly to the "National Command Authority", IE, the SecDef and Prez.
Foreign Internal Defense is the peacetime mission conducted in permissive or semi-permissive locales and the classic Special Forces mission is UW(Unconventional Warfare), which is basically FID behind enemy lines. IE 5th SF Group in the fall of 02 in Afghanistan. There were never more than 100men on the ground except when the Rangers and CAG hit a place up north.
I thought I was a "poser" who desperately needs to be outed for the sake of all that is right? You'd best be about it!
Oh, you are. You avoided answering whether or not you were guard or active for how many posts?
And, IIRC, and I do, my whole beef with you was/is that you talk like you have been around the world kicking ass and taking names as a SF operator on active duty. I said you were NOT active duty, and would take your 2k bet if you said you were.
You didn't. Because I was right, and you were not. The no CIB was just icing on the cake.
I thought I was a "poser" who desperately needs to be outed for the sake of all that is right? You'd best be about it!
Oh, you are. You avoided answering whether or not you were guard or active for how many posts?
And, IIRC, and I do, my whole beef with you was/is that you talk like you have been around the world kicking ass and taking names as a SF operator on active duty. I said you were NOT active duty, and would take your 2k bet if you said you were.
You didn't. Because I was right, and you were not. The no CIB was just icing on the cake.
Here is the deal: you've talked a lot of smack. You are a subject matter expert on most anything .mil or so it seems. You want to bet that you can prove you were WHAT?????
So, let's try this:
Were you active duty or reserves/guard? You talk like you were a ninja on active duty all over the world. Nobody is going to bet you that you can't produce papers that prove you were in the National Guard SF.
At least you've admitted that you don't have a CIB on your 214. That's a start.
Now, let's just clarify what you did, who you were with, and move on.
OR, claim you were active duty SF, claim your MOS was a sniper on active duty, and we've got us a bet.
Fraud.
Quoted, lest you forget. The highlighted part is the pertinent part.
I thought I was a "poser" who desperately needs to be outed for the sake of all that is right? You'd best be about it!
Oh, you are. You avoided answering whether or not you were guard or active for how many posts?
And, IIRC, and I do, my whole beef with you was/is that you talk like you have been around the world kicking ass and taking names as a SF operator on active duty. I said you were NOT active duty, and would take your 2k bet if you said you were.
You didn't. Because I was right, and you were not. The no CIB was just icing on the cake.
Poser.
Goalie,
First and foremost, thank you for your service. But when the 20th group gets called up and sent abroad, for whatever reason (like training for FID)...they are still GBs doing their mission, whether in direct combat or otherwise as the SOCOM directs them.
Wait, I'm pretty sure I said I had an 03 MOS, and an 01 MOS. I am also pretty sure I didn't claim to be recon/SF/delta/sniper/ninja or anything else besides, what was the word I used....VANILLA.
It isn't about me bud. I got a CAR on my DD214. Received and returned small arms fire. Then I got the fugg out and became a nurse. I don't have self-esteem issues related to my job. I ain't claiming to be billy-badass. YOU, however, have claimed expertise in about anything related to .mil ever talked about here on 24HC.
when the 20th group gets called up and sent abroad, for whatever reason (like training for FID)...they are still GBs doing their mission, whether in direct combat or otherwise as the SOCOM directs them.
Cheers Sir.
I know that. I figured he was Guard, as evidenced by my reply to his bet offer. I have not maligned the NG or the NG SF.
I am just not impressed with TAK on any level. His tone and style of discourse screamed that he didn't have a CIB and wasn't in combat as SF. I asked a bunch of questions that were avoided for a long time, but, eventually was proven correct.
when the 20th group gets called up and sent abroad, for whatever reason (like training for FID)...they are still GBs doing their mission, whether in direct combat or otherwise as the SOCOM directs them.
Cheers Sir.
His tone and style of discourse screamed that he didn't have a CIB and wasn't in combat as SF.
You're right Goalie, putting what's left of a man into a body bag when he's wearing 5.11's is a LOT easier than when he's wearing ACU's or multicam.
HAJ, when you and I first PM'ed quite awhile ago, didn't I tell you I was retired out of the 20th SF?
To be honest, I don't recall. Without looking it up I can't confirm nor deny that. I've been so over exposed to that kind of thing that I tend to pay it little to no attention.
I'm on my cell now so looking that up is annoying. I'll double check tomorrow when I am back on my computer
You are an insult to everyone that ever served this country. You should probably be locked up or at at least outed for Stolen Valor Violations.Pathetic phfucking pig.
As a matter of fact I know someone that has a little pull with the Stolen Valor Act of 2013. I know your name and am thinking about letting him know all about you and what you've been doing here. I hope you choke on that..
As a matter of fact I know someone that has a little pull with the Stolen Valor Act of 2013. I know your name and am thinking about letting him know all about you and what you've been doing here. I hope you choke on that..
0321's will tell you that they're the only "real" Marines, but I wouldn't go that far. I like Marines, I've mostly worked for them for years now.
Really? I won the cabana lottery for one of the places on Onslow bay back when I was stationed at Lejeune. 100 bucks for a week on the beach doesn't suck.
The recon guys out there were super cool to my friends who came out from MN to party for a week, and certainly didn't act like I was not a jar-head because I was an 0352 and not recon.
You must just hang around with other a-holes. Birds of a feather I guess.
I still have no idea where TRH is or what happened to him.
I told everyone in the middle of this multi-page beat down that TRH went to Denmark for some kind of surgery that he couldn't get here. Not sure what the surgery is called but he's been in counseling for a couple of years and a Psychologist had to sign off on it. Then 4321/TAK jumped in and scattered it to the wind.
Remind me to tell you about Liberty in Jerusalem, them Israeli goils grow tits before the grow arms, and "anteater" status is regarded as a delicacy over there
Just curious, who is held to a higher esteem a Navy Seal or a Army Ranger? Green Beret? Or I'm I forgetting another division? Never served so this is foreign to me.
Just curious, who is held to a higher esteem a Navy Seal or a Army Ranger? Green Beret? Or I'm I forgetting another division? Never served so this is foreign to me.
The course of the uprising was dramatically reversed, and the life of a CIA Officer undoubtedly saved when a mixed force of some 15 American SF and British SBS turned up and took decisive action to suppress the prisoner uprising.
They fought for 24 hours until another small force of American soldiers turned up and also pitched into the battle..
The point is that regardless of nationality and cap badge, these were all professional soldiers of the highest calibre and the impact of their arrival on the battle was many times greater than their numbers would have suggested..
Just curious, who is held to a higher esteem a Navy Seal or a Army Ranger? Green Beret? Or I'm I forgetting another division? Never served so this is foreign to me.
You can answer the question yourself even lacking personal experiences eatin' snakes and frogs and chitt. Ask yourself who various members of our services look up to. Ask when and where. The answer is found there Grasshopper.
I'll give you some perspective:
Spec Ops dudes will look up to chopper pilots when they are plucked from a hot LZ. Chopper pilots will look up to Grunts who pull their azz out of the skillet after getting shot down, then they will both look up to the chopper pilots who pluck them out of the chitt. They will ALL look up to the TAC Air that put down HE during the extraction. The crewchiefs will be the quiet heroes of all those egotistical bastids because the birds didn't break when the chitt was in the wind.
But if something goes a little sideways and you find yourself in the Evac Hospital, you will look up to the doctors, nurses and the fella sweeping blood out of the ER with a push broom.
When you're feelin' better you will look up at the Doughnut Dolly and have base thoughts about her at the same time. She in turn will look up at you (in her heart) as the greatest hero she met in the last 15 minutes.
It's a mutual admiration society. Egos don't mean chitt when it's down and dirty.
Just curious, who is held to a higher esteem a Navy Seal or a Army Ranger? Green Beret? Or I'm I forgetting another division? Never served so this is foreign to me.
I have the grandest amount of respect and awe for all of them! They are all true badasses and they do it for the love of their country and fellow countrymen, in my book that makes them even better.
Just curious, who is held to a higher esteem a Navy Seal or a Army Ranger? Green Beret? Or I'm I forgetting another division? Never served so this is foreign to me.
You can answer the question yourself even lacking personal experiences eatin' snakes and frogs and chitt. Ask yourself who various members of our services look up to. Ask when and where. The answer is found there Grasshopper.
I'll give you some perspective:
Spec Ops dudes will look up to chopper pilots when they are plucked from a hot LZ. Chopper pilots will look up to Grunts who pull their azz out of the skillet after getting shot down, then they will both look up to the chopper pilots who pluck them out of the chitt. They will ALL look up to the TAC Air that put down HE during the extraction. The crewchiefs will be the quiet heroes of all those egotistical bastids because the birds didn't break when the chitt was in the wind.
But if something goes a little sideways and you find yourself in the Evac Hospital, you will look up to the doctors, nurses and the fella sweeping blood out of the ER with a push broom.
When you're feelin' better you will look up at the Doughnut Dolly and have base thoughts about her at the same time. She in turn will look up at you (in her heart) as the greatest hero she met in the last 15 minutes.
It's a mutual admiration society. Egos don't mean chitt when it's down and dirty.
Just curious, who is held to a higher esteem a Navy Seal or a Army Ranger? Green Beret? Or I'm I forgetting another division? Never served so this is foreign to me.
You can answer the question yourself even lacking personal experiences eatin' snakes and frogs and chitt. Ask yourself who various members of our services look up to. Ask when and where. The answer is found there Grasshopper.
I'll give you some perspective:
Spec Ops dudes will look up to chopper pilots when they are plucked from a hot LZ. Chopper pilots will look up to Grunts who pull their azz out of the skillet after getting shot down, then they will both look up to the chopper pilots who pluck them out of the chitt. They will ALL look up to the TAC Air that put down HE during the extraction. The crewchiefs will be the quiet heroes of all those egotistical bastids because the birds didn't break when the chitt was in the wind.
But if something goes a little sideways and you find yourself in the Evac Hospital, you will look up to the doctors, nurses and the fella sweeping blood out of the ER with a push broom.
When you're feelin' better you will look up at the Doughnut Dolly and have base thoughts about her at the same time. She in turn will look up at you (in her heart) as the greatest hero she met in the last 15 minutes.
It's a mutual admiration society. Egos don't mean chitt when it's down and dirty.
Just curious, who is held to a higher esteem a Navy Seal or a Army Ranger? Green Beret? Or I'm I forgetting another division? Never served so this is foreign to me.
You can answer the question yourself even lacking personal experiences eatin' snakes and frogs and chitt. Ask yourself who various members of our services look up to. Ask when and where. The answer is found there Grasshopper.
I'll give you some perspective:
Spec Ops dudes will look up to chopper pilots when they are plucked from a hot LZ. Chopper pilots will look up to Grunts who pull their azz out of the skillet after getting shot down, then they will both look up to the chopper pilots who pluck them out of the chitt. They will ALL look up to the TAC Air that put down HE during the extraction. The crewchiefs will be the quiet heroes of all those egotistical bastids because the birds didn't break when the chitt was in the wind.
But if something goes a little sideways and you find yourself in the Evac Hospital, you will look up to the doctors, nurses and the fella sweeping blood out of the ER with a push broom.
When you're feelin' better you will look up at the Doughnut Dolly and have base thoughts about her at the same time. She in turn will look up at you (in her heart) as the greatest hero she met in the last 15 minutes.
It's a mutual admiration society. Egos don't mean chitt when it's down and dirty.
Just curious, who is held to a higher esteem a Navy Seal or a Army Ranger? Green Beret? Or I'm I forgetting another division? Never served so this is foreign to me.
You can answer the question yourself even lacking personal experiences eatin' snakes and frogs and chitt. Ask yourself who various members of our services look up to. Ask when and where. The answer is found there Grasshopper.
I'll give you some perspective:
Spec Ops dudes will look up to chopper pilots when they are plucked from a hot LZ. Chopper pilots will look up to Grunts who pull their azz out of the skillet after getting shot down, then they will both look up to the chopper pilots who pluck them out of the chitt. They will ALL look up to the TAC Air that put down HE during the extraction. The crewchiefs will be the quiet heroes of all those egotistical bastids because the birds didn't break when the chitt was in the wind.
But if something goes a little sideways and you find yourself in the Evac Hospital, you will look up to the doctors, nurses and the fella sweeping blood out of the ER with a push broom.
When you're feelin' better you will look up at the Doughnut Dolly and have base thoughts about her at the same time. She in turn will look up at you (in her heart) as the greatest hero she met in the last 15 minutes.
It's a mutual admiration society. Egos don't mean chitt when it's down and dirty.
Just curious, who is held to a higher esteem a Navy Seal or a Army Ranger? Green Beret? Or I'm I forgetting another division? Never served so this is foreign to me.
You can answer the question yourself even lacking personal experiences eatin' snakes and frogs and chitt. Ask yourself who various members of our services look up to. Ask when and where. The answer is found there Grasshopper.
I'll give you some perspective:
Spec Ops dudes will look up to chopper pilots when they are plucked from a hot LZ. Chopper pilots will look up to Grunts who pull their azz out of the skillet after getting shot down, then they will both look up to the chopper pilots who pluck them out of the chitt. They will ALL look up to the TAC Air that put down HE during the extraction. The crewchiefs will be the quiet heroes of all those egotistical bastids because the birds didn't break when the chitt was in the wind.
But if something goes a little sideways and you find yourself in the Evac Hospital, you will look up to the doctors, nurses and the fella sweeping blood out of the ER with a push broom.
When you're feelin' better you will look up at the Doughnut Dolly and have base thoughts about her at the same time. She in turn will look up at you (in her heart) as the greatest hero she met in the last 15 minutes.
It's a mutual admiration society. Egos don't mean chitt when it's down and dirty.
Now and then even Cookie is admired.
Nicely put, bro Dan.
Not as nicely put but... This thing started with the disappearance of a nut bar member TRH and turned into more things than I can wrap my brain around. The Real Hawkeye must have bit off more than he could chew because he's decided to find another internet home. I'm glad because he was a coward. Not just a coward but a COWARD in full capitol letters. Christopher(TRH)thought that he could insult the members of the Campfire with his Google-foo and his idiotic stances on fluoride,childhood vaccinations,Anti-Semite ramblings,and his inability to see the world as it really is,not what he twisted it up to fit his goofy reality. I hope he never comes back. I really believe that we are all just a little dumber from reading his idiotic posts and it's a good time to turn the corner and leave his idiocy behind forever.
Not as nicely put but... This thing started with the disappearance of a nut bar member TRH and turned into more things than I can wrap my brain around. The Real Hawkeye must have bit off more than he could chew because he's decided to find another internet home. I'm glad because he was a coward. Not just a coward but a COWARD in full capitol letters. Christopher(TRH)thought that he could insult the members of the Campfire with his Google-foo and his idiotic stances on fluoride,childhood vaccinations,Anti-Semite ramblings,and his inability to see the world as it really is,not what he twisted it up to fit his goofy reality. I hope he never comes back. I really believe that we are all just a little dumber from reading his idiotic posts and it's a good time to turn the corner and leave his idiocy behind forever.
I split the blanket with TRH when he said that those of us who served the Flag were too dumb and na�ve to know we were pawns of an imperialistic nation run by Jews. And too stupid to understand that after he had shown us poor souls the true light. However, I still challenged and responded to him with my opinions to correct the record as I saw it. Taken advantage of the opportunity...so to speak.
I just looked over his last two days of posting and found nothing much out of his usual high number of posts. On the 8th his last day, 6 of his 21 posts were about religion, 14 the day before, and I read the last couple and nothing special jumped out at me. His very last posts were about guns. He was last on line on Saturday, five days later.
Then nothing. He fell off the cliff. Nothing about leaving or finding a new home or even a GFY.
I am not at all sure that TRH left because he had had enough. Something may have happened. But that is just my opinion and he never agreed with that. Ever.
,..talkin' 'bout, "blah-blah-blah-blah-blahhhhhhh,..TRH,..blah-blah,..split the blanket (whatever in the fug *that* means) blah-blah blah blah-Big Bad Bill-blah-blahblah-blahhhhhhhh.
If I ever get bored enough to attempt to decipher your bullshit, I hope there's somebody in the vicinity with enough mercy to knock me in the fuggin' head.
Somebody says "Sarah Palin" when BOWSINGER is on line,..and people from Macon to Pittsburg jump up from their computers and start scrambin' fer flashlight batteries,...
I remember when ronny paul was runnin fer president. You'd get on your knees and give lip service to buy votes fer him. Free pot and whores fer everyone
Not as nicely put but... This thing started with the disappearance of a nut bar member TRH and turned into more things than I can wrap my brain around. The Real Hawkeye must have bit off more than he could chew because he's decided to find another internet home. I'm glad because he was a coward. Not just a coward but a COWARD in full capitol letters. Christopher(TRH)thought that he could insult the members of the Campfire with his Google-foo and his idiotic stances on fluoride,childhood vaccinations,Anti-Semite ramblings,and his inability to see the world as it really is,not what he twisted it up to fit his goofy reality. I hope he never comes back. I really believe that we are all just a little dumber from reading his idiotic posts and it's a good time to turn the corner and leave his idiocy behind forever.
I split the blanket with TRH when he said that those of us who served the Flag were too dumb and na�ve to know we were pawns of an imperialistic nation run by Jews. And too stupid to understand that after he had shown us poor souls the true light. However, I still challenged and responded to him with my opinions to correct the record as I saw it. Taken advantage of the opportunity...so to speak.
I just looked over his last two days of posting and found nothing much out of his usual high number of posts. On the 8th his last day, 6 of his 21 posts were about religion, 14 the day before, and I read the last couple and nothing special jumped out at me. His very last posts were about guns. He was last on line on Saturday, five days later.
Then nothing. He fell off the cliff. Nothing about leaving or finding a new home or even a GFY.
I am not at all sure that TRH left because he had had enough. Something may have happened. But that is just my opinion and he never agreed with that. Ever.
,..talkin' 'bout, "blah-blah-blah-blah-blahhhhhhh,..TRH,..blah-blah,..split the blanket (whatever in the fug *that* means) blah-blah blah blah-Big Bad Bill-blah-blahblah-blahhhhhhhh.
If I ever get bored enough to attempt to decipher your bullshit, I hope there's somebody in the vicinity with enough mercy to knock me in the fuggin' head.
We Split The Blanket recorded by Buck Owens written by Red Simpson and Buck Owens
Damn, I take a day off to go hunting and I come back and Bristoe and Knothead are dating, TRH is rehab or MIA or maybe the negroes in the '66 Chevy shortbed finally ran him down, Deflave thinks I am buying him a round, Jorge1 is a Voodoo priest, and the Poobah went silent.
Ya'll gotta do better. Zeus tried to right the ship but I am afraid we're about to hit a reef. Or reefer. Focus. Santa is watching.
Damn, I take a day off to go hunting and I come back and Bristoe and Knothead are dating, TRH is rehab or MIA or maybe the negroes in the '66 Chevy shortbed finally ran him down, Deflave thinks I am buying him a round, Jorge1 is a Voodoo priest, and the Poobah went silent.
Ya'll gotta do better. Zeus tried to right the ship but I am afraid we're about to hit a reef. Or reefer. Focus. Santa is watching.
I thought Jorge has always been a voodoo priest, didn't he immigrate here for that freedom of religion thingie?
Damn, I take a day off to go hunting and I come back and Bristoe and Knothead are dating, TRH is rehab or MIA or maybe the negroes in the '66 Chevy shortbed finally ran him down, Deflave thinks I am buying him a round, Jorge1 is a Voodoo priest, and the Poobah went silent.
That's pretty much where all threads end up after 15 pages.
Brent was a tool for the left. TRH is a conservative who never had anyone teach him as a kid to hunt. Eccentric, yes. Harmful, no. Unlike us, he was sometimes misguided and hard headed.
while TRH may be conservative, he has deep seated psychological issues....there is a reason he latches on to every conspiricy theory that comes down the pipe.....he needs to feel like he is smarter than everyone else and since he cant do so any other way...hell just look at what he claims to have done in his life, its full of almost doing stuff....he ALMOST became a cop, he ALMOST got a degree in psychology, he claimed to be a teacher but in reality turns out he is an former teacher....he claims to know damn near anything bout the medical field because his dad is a doctor.....the guy hasnt accomplished chit in his life so he latches onto conspiracy theories in order to feel superior....
not saying my life is a story of perfection but i dont hide behind stupid chit to make myself out to be superior to everyone else......
Brent was a tool for the left. TRH is a conservative who never had anyone teach him as a kid to hunt. Eccentric, yes. Harmful, no. Unlike us, he was sometimes misguided and hard headed.
any one with that has such a deep seated, and all pervasive hatred of Jews and International bankers can't be totally sane.
Brent was a tool for the left. TRH is a conservative who never had anyone teach him as a kid to hunt. Eccentric, yes. Harmful, no. Unlike us, he was sometimes misguided and hard headed.
any one with that has such a deep seated, and all pervasive hatred of Jews and International bankers can't be totally sane.
Why are you saying that about us? I'm perfectly sane.
Some here think that TRH has reincarnated as sherp. I'm not so sure but sherp is an idiot and seems to act somewhat like TRH. I don't really care because we'll never get rid of the idiots that are going to piss in the Fire and make it uncomfortable for the good folks that call the Campfire their internet home.
I wondered what sort of [bleep] moron resuscitated a 7 year old thread.................
Missed it the first time, but I notice that the reason many gave for their seething hatred of me was that I advanced wacky conspiracy theories, which are now, in the Campfire present, considered by most members to be conspiracy reality.
I wondered what sort of [bleep] moron resuscitated a 7 year old thread.................
Missed it the first time, but I notice that the reason many gave for their seething hatred of me was that I advanced wacky conspiracy theories, which are, in the Campfire present, considered by most members to be conspiracy reality.
I wondered what sort of [bleep] moron resuscitated a 7 year old thread.................
Missed it the first time, but I notice that the reason many gave for their seething hatred of me was that I advanced wacky conspiracy theories, which are, in the Campfire present, considered by most members to be conspiracy reality.
And yet TRH is the messiah of the couch kgunts. No wonder his best friend died from a cold.
Saved to prevent deletion.
Good with me. Name one person you've met on the 'Fire.
At least he’s not he’s not hidings and running from Real Men on the Campfire that called a chicken schitt a chicken. How’s that working out for you Little Man ?
Bet you were shaking like a Chihuahua schitting a peach seed when Renegade50 was hunting your sorry ass.
And yet TRH is the messiah of the couch kgunts. No wonder his best friend died from a cold.
Saved to prevent deletion.
Good with me. Name one person you've met on the 'Fire.
At least he’s not he’s not hidings and running from Real Men on the Campfire that called a chicken schitt a chicken. How’s that working out for you Little Man ?
Bet you were shaking like a Chihuahua schitting a peach seed when Renegade50 was hunting your sorry ass.
Was that where R50 & SH were supposed to meet and fight? R50 showed up, posted pics of himself at the spot. SH never showed up.
And yet TRH is the messiah of the couch kgunts. No wonder his best friend died from a cold.
Saved to prevent deletion.
Good with me. Name one person you've met on the 'Fire.
At least he’s not he’s not hidings and running from Real Men on the Campfire that called a chicken schitt a chicken. How’s that working out for you Little Man ?
Bet you were shaking like a Chihuahua schitting a peach seed when Renegade50 was hunting your sorry ass.
Was that where R50 & SH were supposed to meet and fight? R50 showed up, posted pics of himself at the spot. SH never showed up.
Yep. Another member told him he’d meet him anytime and anyplace a couple of days ago, after he offered up $1000 to meet up. And again, he ran like the little Cowardly Bitch he is.