Originally Posted by crossfireoops
That sinkhole in the main spillway isn't a crater from a bomb hit, it's a COLLAPSE of the sub-grade. For a collapse of that scale to transpire, there has to be a LOT of water making it's way from out from under that dam already,....DEEP underneath.

The implications of a potential "blowout" right down at or below the reservoirs bottom are not at all good IMHO.

GTC





might have been some cavitation in the flow, micro bubbles of vapor forming and collapsing that create roughness in a spot, progressively eats away at the concrete. Not unheard of in large dam spillways. look up water hammer, cavitation, glen canyon dam.

from wiki tonight:

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2017 spillway failure
Partial view of the spillway structure next to Oroville Dam with the main service spillway (right) and emergency spillway (left) (2008)

On February 7, 2017, during ongoing flood control release of about 50,000 cubic feet per second (1,400 m3/s), a crater appeared in the Oroville Dam spillway.[22] High inflows to Lake Oroville forced dam operators to continue using the damaged spillway, and measures were taken to prepare the emergency spillway – officially known as the auxiliary spillway – for use for the first time. Power transmission lines were moved, and workers began clear-cutting trees on the hillside below the emergency spillway. [23] Meanwhile, debris from the crater in the main spillway was carried downstream, and caused damage to a nearby fish hatchery due to high turbidity. State workers began evacuating fish and eggs from the hatchery in an attempt to lessen damage.[24] By February 10, the spillway hole had grown to 300 feet (91 m) wide, 500 feet (150 m) long and 45 feet (14 m) deep.[25]

Although engineers had hoped that using the damaged spillway could drain the lake enough to avoid use of the emergency spillway,[26] they were forced to reduce its discharge from 65,000 cu ft/s (1,800 m3/s) to 55,000 cu ft/s (1,600 m3/s) due to potential damage to power lines.[27][28] Shortly after 8:00 am on February 11, 2017, the emergency spillway began carrying water for the first time since the dam's construction in 1968.[29] Because the spillway is a separate structure from the dam, there was no danger of the main embankment being breached, and evacuation of Oroville itself was not considered at that time, as officials stated that there was no threat to public safety. However, once the lake rose to the level of the emergency spillway, an uncontrolled overflow that topped out at 12,600 cu ft/s (360 m3/s)[30][31] began, and water flowed directly onto the hillside below the concrete crest of the emergency spillway.

On February 12, 2017, evacuation was ordered for those in low-lying levels of Oroville, due to an anticipated failure of the auxiliary spillway.[32] A failure of the concrete top of the spillway would allow up to 30 vertical feet of Lake Oroville through the gap in an uncontrolled deluge. The flow over the main spillway was increased to 100,000 cubic feet per second (2,800 m3/s) to try to slow the erosion of the emergency spillway.[33]




Originally Posted by jorgeI
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....