I agree with Flinch, but just to be different, I shoot 130 grain conventional Speer bullets, and they kill elk just fine going a hair under 3,000 fps with 44.5 grains of IMR 4064. A cow moose my wife shot only went 30 yards, too. This is an old Bob Milek load which shoots very well in both a Remington Model 7 and a Tikka T3. Contrary to what you might read on this website, big game animals haven't become armor plated in the past 20 years.