I had a Winchester M70 cheapo super shadow wal mart special. Sold it to a guy in Alaska. Really liked it, but if I were to buy another one, it would be in 7mm WSM. Really like the whole short action magnum concept. Mine was extremely accurate. Killed one elk, and quite a few deer and hogs. On the elk I used a 140 TSX. Most of the deer and hogs were killed with ballistic tips, but also a few of the old Nosler Solid Bases. Pretty destructive with the Ballistic Tips, but that never bothered me.