Originally Posted by [bleep]
I came here with an honest question about whether I, as a C&R holder, could ship a firearm back to the owner or if I had to ship to an FFL in his state if I returned a firearm. I was hoping you could provide a reasonably complete answer because part of my confusion is from an email exchange I had with ATF. You didn't provide any reasonable answer beyond your normal screaming, cursing and providing nonsensical and vague answers even when I tried to keep a civil exchange going. Unfortunately having an anonymous internet Wikipedia expert googler named Bricktop as a source of information isn't going to work as an affirmative defense if I follow some of your nonsense.

Why is it that after YEARS of screaming at people who just want reliable answers that you are still unable to cite federal statutes or regulations? I mean come on.. You do know that the GCA was used to create those statutes, right? And then there has been 44 years of other congressional bills and ATF regulations (some flatly illegal and totally unfounded in the GCA or other bills) which have changed the verbiage and intent - like the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act?. You do know that when people go to court it's for a violation of those statutes and NOT a violation of the 1968 GCA, right?

Oh, sorry.. here I am burying you in multiple questions again. Don't stress though, I don't expect any answer except for the normal cursing and screaming.


One another thing you need to understand as you trick the unknowing into following your advice.

There is no such thing as a legally binding statement from the ATF. You need to QUIT SAYING THAT. If you get a written statement from them, it can be reversed at their will and they will not tell you. An email can be considered as guidance, but the best that an email from them will be is as an avenue of defense in court if they press charges - it may or may not keep them from pressing charges. Of course while you're in court trying to stay out of jail or keep your FFL you're paying some lawyer your life savings to do so. The ATF have a long history of reversing decisions or giving out contradictory decisions to people who ask for a determination.

Have a good day.
Ah yes, we all get treated to another of your self-aggrandizingly pointless rants. This affirms every comment I've made regarding your participation in this thread. You're not seeking any information whatsoever; there's not a thing anyone can possibly tell you, because in your mind you know everything there is to possibly know.

Quite a few federal regulations were posted here, you don't want to read them or don't want to acknowledge them because there's no way they could possibly match up your own thoughts.

You won't seek a written determination for the reasons stated previously; you won't get the answer you want and it won't be public and instantaneous.

You keep mentioning and alluding to "court cases" that support your statements. Please cite these "court cases."


I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

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