George I hear you and don't recall saying the cartridge is no good,nor that it doesn't offer people more choices...if it didn't look good to me, I would not have bought one myself. grin

As it turns out I simply did not need the "new" technology....getting a light fast handling 375H&H is no more difficult than screwing a light tube(#4) to an action and sticking it in a FG stock....I did it 30+ years ago,and can't help it if it took the factories 30+ years to catch up.

I simply find it amusing when some young guy gets on here, and starts lecturing everyone about the "advancements"of the "new technology",proclaims it "superior",and the points to a 100 year old case design as "proof".... grin







The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.