Originally Posted by BC30cal
John;
Good morning to you sir, I trust this chilly Friday morning finds you acceptably well - and warm enough.

Thanks for your last post as when I read it in context with the previous posts from JB, Denton and BobinNH it gelled a few concepts for me personally.

Way back in the dark ages when I was absorbed with group shooting an article by I believe Mike Venturino suggested more or less that only the first two shots from a cold, clean hunting rifle barrel were meaningful.

I recall being more than a tad nonplussed by that revelation as it both made sense and turned my then current theories on their collective ears..... frown

Anyway John, of all the rifles we've had pass through our hands over the decades in between then and now, the ones that will plant the first two shots from a cold barrel where we want them are the ones that get taken out hunting anymore.

I'll note that at this point in our hunting we don't generally shoot that far compared to many folks here, but if we do begin down that path a rifle that will hit where I need it to with the first round will be the one that goes up the mountain behind the house come fall.

Thanks again for your post John and the rest of our 'Fire cyber friends as well. All the best to you all this weekend.

Dwayne


Same back at ya, Dwayne grin



Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by JohnBurns

In other words I think I get more feedback per shot on both my shooting and the rifle by shooting to the point of aim than just shooting a "group" somewhere on the paper.


Yeah, there's a difference between shooting for score and shooting for group. But a rifle that can't group isn't going to shoot a high score. Unless of course you're just a very lucky bad shot.

Travis


Travis,

Good point on calling it "shooting for score". I would point out that hunting rifles are shot for score while hunting.

I figure why not shoot for score all the time and get more feedback on each shot.

Shooting groups vs shooting for score. Somebody needs to write an article. laugh


John Burns

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They can't stop the signal.