Originally Posted by rta48
take a look at the AR platform with something like the 50 cal Beowulf or 458 SOCOM! Either one would offer plenty of HP for your intended need.



No offense but I took a long look at the AR "platform" (?!) many years ago when I was wearing green uniforms every day and Uncle Sam cut my paychecks and bought the guns and the ammo. I wasn't so impressed (neither was my dear old Dad in '68 in SE Asia), but I was a rifleman before I enlisted and he was too.

As for the 50 Beowolf it's throwing a 400 gr. bullet at what, under 1900 fps? The Socom gets out a 300 gr. @ 1900 and a 405 gr. @ 1600 or so??
Come on man, that doesn't approach the "HP" for my intended need.

We're discussing .375H&H/Ruger, driving a 270 gr. @ 2700+, the .458WM sending a 300 gr. @ 2600, a 400 gr. @ 2500, a 500 gr. @ 2200+.
My numbers are close there.
.416 launches a 400 gr. at what, 2500?

I understand a whole generation of new shooters have no exposure beyond the AR "platform", but there exists a whole shooting world out there that AR land can't begin to approach.

So no, those chamberings aren't even close, I can beat that with my old 45-70.

J


And no offense intended, I'm glad we have a few million shooters who just adore the AR, they'll hopefully stay for life, support the 2nd Amendment cause. Just don't assume that the AR is the answer to every firearm question, it isn't.

Last edited by JTMcC; 03/27/14.