Originally Posted by sharpsguy
Originally Posted by moosemike
.45-70?


You betcha. They either don't have a clue or don't want to admit it. If it was 45-70 H&H instead of 45-70 Govt., they would be all over it.


Nope, Holland & Holland did better than a 45-70 after seeing what it could not do twenty years after the 45-70 was developed for our military. H&H developed a true sporting cartridge called the .500/450 Magnum Nitro Express design for double rifles during the late 1890s & Dangerous game hunting. It fires a .458-inch 480-grain projectile at over 2,100 feet per second to generate in excess of 5,000 foot-pounds force of muzzle energy. Which was a lot more powerful than the 45-70 Govt. during the same time period.

Originally Posted by hatari
My choice is the .450/400 NE double. Pondoro Taylor loved it for lion. 400 grain Woodleigh RN Soft points will turn even the biggest Simba into a rug.


That's just a beauty, Both Rifle & Buff, Hatari!