Where I hunt the landowner will only allow me use rimfire rifles. I hunt from a blind that 75 yards from a feeder. A FMJ 17hmr round to the head makes quick work of them. I aim for the spot between the eye and the ear and that FMJ rounds puts them to sleep. I wish they made a FMJ round in a 17wsm. Head shooting them a FMJ round is like sticking them in the head with a ice pick. When I had more access to land I would take my trusty 30-30 with me every time.