I've done the goats in water thing. They don't like it at all at first. I only had 2 adult goats but they learned fast and didn't give me any problems after the 1st time. I've also done it with llamas and their 1st time can be memorable, too. In fact, I'm taking a 3 day trip starting tomorrow afternoon. I'm taking 2 adults and a youngster who'll be on his 1st overnighter. He's been in a little water once but we'll have a good stream crossing on this one. It might be a rodeo. I'll put him between the older ones and hopefully he'll just go through.


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