Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by headwatermike
Ranches in the west are a tremendous land trust for wildlife, sportsmen, and wildlife enthusiast alike. Most ranchers today are land-rich and cash-poor. Folks love to run them down but many live on million dollar plus properties and work for pennies. I don't begrudge them the bit of public grazing that is left on FS land or the vast areas of BLM that is grazed. You run these ranches out of business and the alternative is too often development, 20 acre parcels.



+1, no doubt about that last sentence.


100% agreement from me. When you have a conversation rather than a shouting match, the nuances come out.

But in the case of the Shoulder Season, it comes primarily from landowners wanting it all their own way.

“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery