Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by pete53
so its ok public land access is denied in all western states and the elk get slaughtered by guides and ranchers on private land legally with low priced permits,because feed for elk in the mountains is gone by fall because of beef cows . go to the county courthouse and see who gets government checks for farming and ranching you will be surprised ,I will agree its better than sending tax money to other countries. but public land access being denied ,elk shoulder seasons is wrong and will hurt all hunters in the future. > there smokepole I included all western states !


How much stupid can you possibly emit? You have no facts to go by, you are just emotionally upset with no clear reason. The grass issue has been debunked more than once on this issue and you continue to rant.





Always see plenty of grass when I go into the mtns.


I just returned from a successful shoulder season cow elk hunt on a very large private ranch.
We did a 3/4 mile stalk on a small herd in howling wind, took a nice dry cow with two shots at about 175 yards.
Ranch is very active in taking kids and veterans on hunts.

I shot a cow the Saturday after Thanksgiving on public land. Great solo hunt that took me an hour each trip to carry out each quarter.



The grass on the mountain was thick and lush.
The federal farm bill payments are public record and easily found online.
Slob hunters don't just hunt the shoulder season. I have seen crazy hunters during the season.
And the only person I have known from Wisconsin has a very distasteful habit of telling everyone around her how Wisconsin does everything better.


How exactly is the sky falling and the end of hunting near?