Using a 222, but the same bullet. I shot a 175" mule deer buck when I was a kid in the early 9 0 s. I shot the buck in the chest looking at me at about 150yds using a 50 or 55 grain speer tnt. He fell so hard that he had his legs sticking strait up in the air, looked like a spiders legs moving. He never took a step. Probably c!ose to 250lbs in weight, 7 or 8 years old. My boys and I have killed close to 3 dozen deer with that rifle. We use mostly 55 grain Sierra game kings now. Hunt with confidence.