On lung shots comparing my 45/70 with a 405 Speer VS a 223 with a 55 grain Barnes ttsx I've seen better results with the 223. I've mentioned this before and yes it always seems to piss of those with big man syndrome!
I try to tell the DNR knotheads that it would be better if they allowed smaller bore rifles just to cut down on recoil for the kids, but they don't seem to get it.
