I’ve killed my share of deer with a .223. However, outside of some cull shoots, mine aren’t first choice for deer/hogs, but something that’ll work in a pinch. This is hunting the east, or Texas scrub.....if I always hunted open country with only patchy brush or could see the next hillside, I’d be far less concerned with such things. Too much thick stuff to track in, bad angle presentations, etc. I grab other/better suited stuff if planning ahead.