Just out of curiosity, how many of you guys went to Green Beret training, and passed, and are qualified to comment?
Or are you mostly like the kids who play HALO and think they are "Master Chief?"
My experience is most of the bitchers-and-moaners are the ones who:
1. Never were in the military but they know a guy who knows a guy who is a Delta Force, Green Beret Navy SEAL sniper and he says women cant make it.
2. Didn't try for the school because they are not qualified, so how can a woman be qualified?
3. Applied but didn't get selected (see above)
4. Dropped out or didn't pass the school (see above).
Someone who was a Green Beret, please start a list just so I can tell who's offering insight, and who's whining?
I did not apply, nor did I go, but I was USAF. I didn't go Para-rescue (I did pass the physical and PT test) or Combat Control, either.
I'd bet there is a 100% chance she earned it, and a 0% chance they lowered the standards.
Last of the draftees in '72, lottery #38, no student deferments and drafted right out of college. I went to SF, started with 118 at Camp Mackall and graduated 18. I was a radio operator (morse code then) and went to OCS later on. Served on military freefall committee and instructor at Mackall running students thru and our final phase and Robin Sage exercise. We could bring a class in on the 12 miler in 2 hrs and 10 minutes normally. Students carried 45 lbs and instructors 60+ lbs. We always offered to trade rucks with any student. We normally only had one per class make that mistake. Getting thru the course is 90% mental (you have to want it more than anything in order to survice) and of course you have to be physically fit but most people "have a lot of quit in them" when it really gets tough and painful day after day. We used to have a "Quitters tent" with a stove, warm beds and real food, while we slept in snow and rain and ate C rats. Do not think that will mess with the head seeing and smelling that. I could normally pick out of a class the guys going to make it and the ones that would quit within 48 hours.
Spent time on teams as enlisted and Team Leader and instructor numerous times and deputy for doctrine and training division at SWC. That is how I know how Sontag butchered the Q course. I was around at the end of the Katie Wilder episode and it was hot topic what really went on. I knew all the guys who started Delta and have a son in law there now and one in MARSOC.
She will never serve deployed real world on a team is my bet.
Now just to antagonize the Rangers, I gained 17 lbs in ranger school and it was piece of cake compared to SF training then. It was a winter class, we had to eat 3 meals a day in garrison and all high carb. Mountain phase longest patrol is only 4 days, but snow and sleet. I completed the land nav course once never leaving the bleachers except to turn in my card. They had beaten paths to the land nav points and by the time I went thru OCS, Inf basic I and memorized the point numbers and locations as I had ran it so many times . Instructors went crazy when I did that. Our class in Jan 77 lost 2 dead in Florida due to hypothermia and 28 in the hospital. That was the second time that happened. Happened 3rd time in 94 and Congress finally had to pass a law to tell the Ranger Committee how to run the swamps in winter without killing people. Rangers are hard but slooowww to learn not to be stupid.
