Originally Posted by CCCC
The youngest two are almost adults and soon will finish HS - but I still see all of them as the little twerps with dirt under the fingernails, rumpled hair, one shoe untied, squinting to close one eye and g-e-n-t-y squeeze, then racing one another to the targets.

Each knows at least a little bit about personal freedom and self-reliance.

Why are we here?



Ya done good there Grandpa cool

I get my sig line from my all-time favorite speech on education, 1744, Canasetego, an Iroquois Statesman, in reply to an offer by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to educate some of their young men.

We know that you highly esteem the kind of learning taught in those colleges, and that the maintenance of our young men, while with you, would be very expensive to you. We are convinced, therefore, that you mean to do us good by your proposal, and we thank you heartily. But you who are wise must know that different nations have different conceptions of things; and you will therefore not take it amiss if our ideas of this kind of education happen not to be the same with yours.

We have had some experience of it: several of our young people were formerly brought up at the colleges of the northern provinces; they were instructed in all your sciences; but when they came back to us, they were bad runners; ignorant of every means of living in the woods; unable to bear either cold or hunger; knew neither how to build a cabin, take a deer, or kill an enemy; spoke our language imperfectly; were therefore neither fit for hunters, warriors, or counsellors; they
were totally good for nothing.

We are, however, not the less obliged by your kind offer, though we decline accepting it: and to show our grateful sense of it, if the gentlemen of Virginia will send us a dozen of their sons, we will take great care of their education,instruct them in all we know, and make men of them.


If I were King, being a competent runner, knowing how to live in the woods, bear cold and hunger, build a cabin, take a deer, kill an enemy and compose a concise yet eloquent argument would all be prerequisites for graduation. Might even cause more kids to stay in school.


"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744