Oops not the Hays fight. i believe this was the fight way up in San Saba country. Maybe Tumlinson and Eastlands ranging comanies. smithwick was there. Big raid. Remember the paterson carbine Smithwick mentioned
1839. John (??) Moore’s first expedition against the Comanches, that time on the San Saba. So cold some horses died overnight. Did not follow the Lipan Chief Castro’s advice, the Comanches got away, the expedition ended up walking home.
There’s a great passage in Smithwick’s book where himself and a Lipan scout rode ahead to scout out the Comanche camp, the Lipan identifying theComanche camp by many small columns of smoke whereas a grassfire would have been one big cloud.
Moore listened to the Lipans on his next try, 1840, scored big.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
