So much to unpack lol.

I don’t believe their horseshit data at all, that’s why they can’t seem to get anything right is they have terrible sources lol. That answers that. Maybe read this thread legacy...idiots. Maybe spend a few minutes after that at 6.5 Grendel forum and see how often they are chewed on. Maybe see how well aftermarket is doing to fix all the retarded garbage they keep putting out lol. Man that is epic...’our data’....bwahaha...absolute retards. These clowns have never heard the phrase ‘do I right the first time’ and if they did...they aren’t clever enough to understand what it means. So we fools do it right the second and third times for them and the extra money fixing their garbage to ‘acceptable’ goes to the aftermarket. Barrel action and bolt are ok...wrong material until this batch of stainless but just ok....everything else junk.

See their data apparently won’t show them that their little stainless batch sold out in a week or two so they will lean back on their ‘other data’ and keep giving us crap we don’t want and have to triple the cost to make acceptable.

Legacy is a joke. Learn how to make a rifle if you’re gonna get in the rifle business. Learn what do it right the first time means. Hire someone that understands this please...lmfao.

Agree...on field craft vs howa with new everything as ‘better’ and how to define it. Not even in same ball park. Is group size your definition? There’s lightweight done right and there’s legacy lol. One feels quality and has fit finish and features. But even when done trying to get a howa there it still feels cheap as f.ck. There’s way more to it than just being light and shooting a decent group.

Lol, how many blue tikkas going out the door compared to stainless? You build mountain worthy weight rifles and that automatically puts you into stainless preference...such a basic concept keeps flying over their silly heads year after year. Yet they offer stainless in other small markets but the biggest gun market in the world they can’t seem to get it right...what idiots. Hire a real rifleman please and someone that understands the largest gun market in the world. Oh and learn the phrase do it right the first time...ask the new hires what that means.

Step 1 stainless
Step 2 single stage trigger
Step 3 knurled knob safety
Step 4 proper stock (mimic Pendleton)
Step 5 hinged floor plate option
Step 6 ar mag option
Step 6a metal bottom metal!
Step 7 double the price

We would come. Is it really that hard to figure this out???

If you don’t wanna inlet the bottom of action to fit ar mag then completely redo your mag set up to something that is sized according for 5 rounds. Your 5 round mag is the same size as an AR 10 round. Oh but North America the land of AR’s and you can’t math out what that would do for sales to offer the standard language mag here? Lmfao...’our data’ hahahaha.

Oh would that make it too expensive? You underestimate this market greatly. Keep building your cheap azz rifles then...if you did it right you could double the price easy and we would come. What you think guys pay for decent ar builds and how many do they have? Anyway...these idiots couldn’t be more out of touch if they tried.

Last edited by stinkycoyote; 02/29/24.