JWP I don't disagree but I am looking at the bullet from the standpoint of being the threshold of high velocity bullets;not as the best or most recent,but as the first step that ushered in many other succesful high velocity designs. smile


docbill; I am sucking on a Jack Daniels which is maybe the reason I decided to post on this subject......if i were not impaired, I would have brains enough to stay away...... grin




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.