gunut308, I've worked with TAC and 150 gr bullets and RL-15 with 168's so far good results. Varget is on the list of powders to try and it looks like I better get some 150 gr B-tips too thanks. My 308 is a XS-7 Marlin that sure seems to shoot real nice.It was $279 - a $20 coupon at Cabelas 2 years ago and with tax it came to $275 and it sure shoots nice groups for a low dollar gun. It looks somewhat strange on the bench with a 10x40 Mk4 LRT Leupold on there that sells for 5x what the gun costs.Pretty is as pretty does though. Lucked out today and found a clean, little used XL-7 in 270 Win got it for 249.09 with tax. Brought it home and put the 6x Burris on it in 5 minutes. I grabbed some loads with H4350 and 150 NBT's , had it zeroed at 50yds in 3 shots. Shot 2 3 shot groups at 50 yds that could both be covered with a dime.At this rate I think I will start peddling some of my more expensive ones. Thanks again for the info. Magnum Man