Originally Posted by reelman
Originally Posted by jwp475


First off I do not buy that deer are tougher to stop than humans so no that is not obvious, second a drug up individual is proven to be extremely difficult to stop.

41magfan adequate means under any and all conditions not special primo conditions


Really? How many people have you seen run with a leg shot off? How many people have you seen run 100yds after being shot through the lungs with a 30/06 Ballistic Tip?

I would love to carry my .45 1911 everywhere but it's just not practical to carry all the time as it's just to big to conceal with all clothing. In those cases I carry either a 9mm HK P7 or if an even smaller gun is needed to carry to remain concealed I will carry my Seacamp .32acp. The .32 is by no means my first choice but it's better carrying a little gun than no gun. If you don't think a 32 (especially with top quality ammo) is dangerous would you like to be shot with one?


You can read about people on the battle field continue to fight with horrendous wounds and multiple wounds.

An animal can't shoot you after being wounded but a violent advisory can. IN the famous FBI shoot out in Miami Pratt was hit early in the fire fight by agent Jerry Dove in the right biceps the bullet exited the biceps and entered the chest cavity in line with the heart but did not have enough penetration to reach the heart. Doctors claim that had the bullet reached the heart 30 to 40 seconds is the most that Partt could have continued to remain up right. Even though the wound was a non survivable wound (took out an artery in the bicep) and no FBI agent was hit at this time. Pratt continued to fight another 4 1/2 minutes killing to agents and wounding 4

Agent Dove was shooting a 9mm +P 115 grain Silver Tips, A 380 is even close to this and this was way short on penetration



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first