Originally Posted by jorgeI
A. I did not call you a whiner
B. One can teach ALL the values you speak of without religion.
C. Why should I fear God?


A) I would call it a rather angry expression of his opinion. Sometimes those are completely justified.
B) Perhaps, but consider where those values that I think you believe in originated.
C) Because sir, some day soon you will stand before Him and there is nothing in the whole universe you will have to say that will excuse you. And there IS only "one thing" that will.