Hi Travis.... sorry I'm not french.... But I can only agree with you ! if the 85 was french made it would be even worst than 2 or 3 dudes describe the 85!!!

Anyway USA build the raptor F-22 it cost 150 m$ required more than 30 hours of maintenance per flight hour and a total cost per flight hour of $44,000..... In one word he is not working..... He is more often at the "gunsmith" than shooting..... F-35 is even worst..... So Usa rely on F-15 and F-16..... French Dassault build the "RAFALE..... One of the best multirole fighter in the world..... It works, is less expensive and it fly more than he stand in the "gunsmith" shelves......

So travis..... Nobody in France can make a Mcmillan rifle or a Sako.... But they have other knowledge...... Stop to be "redneck".......

I have a Glock 10mm before buy it I read lot of bashing about glock 20 reliability on different forums full of plenty experts... Same such/kind of comments than here about the 85... As I'm stupid [bleep] I bought one..... I followed Tim Sundles advice (buffalo bore owner a real expert) I put a wolff recoil spring 22 lbs..... I shoot BB full charge and corbon I had no one problem......

It's just another sample..... Does it means I'm lucky with supposed craps' brand or just do my job and operate my gun as you should be !?

Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by UAE
Dear best friend from alooobama.... What don't you understand ??
4464 posts.... Make you an expert ???
It's fun when you work in major cities people speak english and everybody understand everybody..... As soon you're in south.... You don't speak english... It's not from me but from an american born university teacher....

Himself told us he gave up to try to understand people from some state !!!! Cause first they don't speak ENGLISH SECOND cause they are f...... Stubborn redneck...... (By the way for me a redneck is not someone working land but a f...... idiot)

Last my dear bestfriend my experience is when a redneck is wrong or out of arguments..... His only defense is to say to an american resident first generation (who writes and speaks a literal english) "is it english ? Was it english ?.....

Anyway SAKO is one of the oldest rifle maker in the world..... If sako's rifle was crap they would have been out of the business for a long..... The fact there are more statisfied sako owners than 2 or 3 ass.... Redneck...... Pissing them....

Have a good day !


The 85 is a French built piece of schit.



Travis