I've used the 230 gr. Keith bullet for over 45 years, mostly with 17 grs. of 2400. My everyday plinking load is the same bullet with 8 grs. of Unique. Took my last elk with a 250 gr. LBT WFN using 9.2 grs. of Unique running about 1150 fps, broke both front shoulders with an exit at about 74 yds (I think) she never took a single step.Gun was my 5 1/2" Bisley.

Dick