Idaho 1945, thanks for the info. I'm just running the cast bullets about 1200, the Sierra JHP's I'm running about 1700 ish, I put 24.5 grains of H110 behind them, I wouldn't even attempt that with the 175 cast bullets. I loaded the cast with 7.0 of Titegroup. Both of them shot extremely well, the JHP's were 3 inches higher at 50 yards than the cast which was expectable considering the extra 500 fps.