Thanks Tejano- I have a bit of both R23 & R26 on hand. At the time, I was using R26/160PT as its accuracy/speed just blew me away...and from a 22" bbl besides! ha. Thanks for the heads up on the Failsafes, but I'm good for now....I have bullets backed up on the runway to try out, ha. Its been 18yrs since my last cow elk, so I'm not in a bind for good elk bullets, ha. I do have a last yrs postponed cow elk hunt back on track, but in late September. I normally prefer to hunt them in late winter, but this was easiest for the ranch, and besides, its a beautiful time of year! So I don't expect anything below 30 deg that time of year, but who knows? It could also be 75 deg! So I figure on working with loads from now until late summer, just checking on speed/accuracy with the temp changes and make any adjustments as I go. Its fun anyhow! ha Thanks again for the heads up Pard! ( Born & raised in Liberty county Texas!) smile