Gee, guess the buck and doe I took last year with two 250s would jump out of my freezer if we hadn't already eaten them. One taken with 100 Speer Hot Core, the other with an 87 Hot Core. Both under 100 yards. This year it was a buck with the 100 Hornady Interlock sp at about the same distance and then 3 different does with, horrors, 180 gr cast bullets out of a 308 at 2200 fps. All one shot kills, all short runs. Guess I better get with the program and get some real bullets and a rifle to shoot them before we go hungry. Course I can't remember when I needed to shoot over 200 yards to get the job done.