Originally Posted by Judman
Either or Jordan, not to impressed with a 230 launched at 2800, with a impact of 2500 or so either

That surprises me. I've been pretty happy with the 147, 162, and 180 so far, on everything from coyotes to WT to bull moose, and impact speeds from 2400-2930. Plenty of penetration with enough, but not excessive, expansion/fragmentation. But as always, YMMV.