Originally Posted by jaguartx
Thats why I specifically asked what it said in the Bible.

We have Bibles. We can see what is written in black and white in them.

You are referring to ideas and interpretations various people have.

Im not asking what Hindu or Moslems believe or Buddhists or witches.


I guess I'm playing devils advocate here. We can see what is written in black and white, but that is not even one thousandth of the meaning.
I would also suggest asking a muslem (islamic) what is written in their book seeing how Ishmael is our half brother and was given a prophecy by the same God that his brother Jacob worshipped. The Quran fills in a huge amount of blanks the Christian bible intentionally left out.