A most informative post MacKay! Especially about user proficiency with +P loads under duress.

I have zero experience in bear habitat here in SC except for Smoky Mountain trout streams so it gives me more confidence in carrying a 625MG with 950fps hardcast or my G17 g5. Admittedly I don’t have any LNFP ammo, only Gold Dots, etc.

I will also be shopping for .45ACP LNFP for my TRP and 4566! Suggestions welcomed.

As for my NM friend, I was steering away from semis to avoid the magazine and chambered round learning curves but with Glocks or M&Ps (no safety model) the investment has to be worth the advantages stated. So I will rethink that with him depending on his initial range trips. A second hand G17 or maybe G21SF are definite possibilities.

Last edited by wreckster84; 05/23/22.