I have shot a lot of deer and elk with a 30-30 in my youth and I recall the last one I shot was about 5 years ago..but I have shot at least one deer every year for the past 10 years, I guess with my old Win. SRC in 25-35 and 117 gr. factory ammo..I do this because I enjoy doing it, I like to hunt and stalk, get close and pull off a good shot..I limit my shots to 200 yards standing or no further than 100 yards if they are running and only broadside. Guess thats the reason some folks hunt with bows, I know it has been for me, but I don't bow hunt any more.