Originally Posted by dryflyelk
Originally Posted by Mannlicher

I don't care how fast that 31 grains is going, it is not going to be as effective as a heavier, larger caliber bullet.
If getting multiple hits is all that important, buy a freaking air soft gun. A fellow should be working on putting one, maybe two effective bullets on target, instead of spray and pray.


So, following this logic, I should be hunting elk with a .45 handgun, right? Since a 165 grain .30 bullet will never be as effective as a 230 grain, .45 caliber bullet?

Ever seen a rabbit or other varmint get hit with a 50 grain bulle t going about 4,000 fps? Hint: there's not much left over.


apples and oranges....you wanna take a hit from my 416 Rem or a 5.7 even with body armor you ain't going to survive a 416 Rem hit


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