Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by DBT
Man's sin ruined the utopia God created?

Given omniscience and omnipotence, how is that possible? Unless it was the plan, in which case the responsibility lies with God.

And the existence of germs and viruses proves natural evolution....unless they are designed by God?

God created the perfect world, he created man with free will, man screwed it all up, God sent Jesus to take on the sins of believers. God knew it was going to happen, as nothing takes Him by surprise. God is not going to make anyone love or accept him. It's not real hard.


It's not 'free will' to be created naive and set up to fail. Where we are told God 'declares the end from the beginning.' The free will defense does not work.