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I never got a great look, but his left side was weak in the back. I figured him to be about 29" outside in th 180 class. I really did not want to get into a pissing match, so my apologies to you Greenhorn. You are absolutely spot on about a few things my friend, big mules are hard to find anywhere, B&C mulies are extremely rare (more extremely rare in TX I'll grant you), there are good bucks scattered out in lots of places, great tags are very hard to get.