Originally Posted by RichardAustin
Originally Posted by Mac84
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
[quote=Hubert]If you are packing heat and are confronted by a person that does not want you there , GET THE FCCK out of there . you cannot win , your carry permit is to protect yourself if you are being robbed. if you are in a store and the magament asks you to leave GO .do not argue. as he has already made up his mind about guns and you rubbing his face in the fact that you are legal will not change the facts.
This is, of course, true, but doesn't change the fact that the cops murdered this guy for, at worst, harmless trespass.


Did you bother with the eyewitness accounts?



Heres two of the eyewitness accounts from the linked article:

Holzgruber said she couldn�t tell what the man was doing; he may have been drawing his gun or maybe he was going to give the gun to the officer, she said.

Yep - a crazed man (not obeying a lawful order - see below) acting in a manner that neither the witness NOR THE RESPONDING OFFICER could tell whether he was drawing his weapon or not. Not sure how you think this supports your position.

Villareale said he was one of the last people to leave the store and wasn�t far from Scott when he was shot.
He testified that an officer yelled at Scott to get on the ground, �and Mr. Scott is just standing there not doing anything.�


Evidently your interpretation of "not doing anything" means he wasn't doing anything wrong. Others might say he wasn't obeying a lawful order. Or that the timeline of witness statements might have an impact. (In other words for those of you in the constant state of Cop Hating, it might be good to know if the second statement preceded the first before using it to accuse someone of "murder".)


"...the fact that the cops murdered this guy"

Your grasp of the meaning of the word 'fact' and the concept of truth appear to need strengthening.